On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 17:09 +0200, Neil Gunton wrote: > Williams, David G. (HQ-JF000)[INDUS] wrote: > > It now seems abundantly clear that Embperl development/discussion has > > become very dormant. Perhaps it has been abandoned. I don't wish to > > criticize Gerald for abandoning this project, rather, I would like to > > thank him for his fine work. I have been using Embperl professionally > > since the beginning and am very grateful to him. > > > > Now I am at a crossroads of sorts - I have to choose between continuing > > to develop in Embperl or migrating my code (lots of it) to another > > product that is actively supported. I think it's hard for me to justify > > continuing Embperl development to my client given that the product > > lacks: > > - support > > - ample documentation > > - an active community (a la PHP) (and no, I do not like or advocate PHP) > > > > So my question to the community (what's left of it) is this: which > > language/product should I use instead of Embperl/Embperl Object? Here > > are my priorities: > > - Camelness: I would prefer to stay under the Perl umbrella if possible. > > I am not unwilling to learn other languages if necessary but Perl rocks! > > - Power: Properly implemented, Embperl/Embperl Object is VERY powerful > > and productive. I don't want to downgrade to an inferior product > > - Open Source: of course > > - Continuity: I need to choose a product that is not on it's way to > > retirement > > - Documentation: Something well documented (perhaps supported by an > > O'Reilly book). > > - Community: There should be an active community with active discussion > > boards and more than one person enhancing/maintaining the product > > - Linux: Microsoft is out of the question. > > > > Thank you very much for your time. > > > > David G. Williams > > > > I wish Gerald would state clearly what his plans and intentions are for > Embperl, so that we users can make plans for either our continued use of > the tool, or transition to some other product, or perhaps even > transferring development to someone else who has time to dedicate to the > open source side of things. I know I have quite a substantial commitment > to Embperl at this point, but no money at the moment. I am still trying > to develop my own sites. If/when I become the internet millionaire then > I would be more than happy to help fund further development and support > for this wonderful tool - I think it still works so well, and would be > very sad to see it disappear through simple neglect. I for one could not > imagine transitioning to PHP from here, that would just be too > depressing. I like the Perl universe. > > Ruby on Rails seems to be the tool that's been gaining the "buzz" of > late, but I also seem to be getting the impression that the honeymoon > may be over as people start to realize some of the realities of Ruby (no > expert myself there, just what I get the impression of from many posts > skimmed here and there). > > I'm in the UK visiting family at the moment, but would be glad to > discuss further Embperl development options once I get back home after > Sept 12th. I'm not sure if Gerald has been run over by a bus, or if he > has simply been busy, or just lost interest in the community side of > things here. I remember in the past I got nervous when he appeared to > "go away" for periods of time, but then he always seemed to turn up > again and assure us that everything was ok and was still committed etc. > That's fine, if that's all this is. It would be nice to get an update > from Gerald on his status and intentions, whenever he can get to it. > > Thanks, > > Neil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
I'm using Catalyst since two years now and am in the process of migration my last Embperl app to it. MVC makes things much cleaner imho. -Alex *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* T-Systems Austria GesmbH Rennweg 97-99, 1030 Wien Handelsgericht Wien, FN 79340b *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* Notice: This e-mail contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and then delete this e-mail immediately. *"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"*"* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
