here is 50% (1750mm/min) http://imagebin.org/301967
sam On 03/26/2014 02:49 PM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: >> One thing I noticed... Lets say we are running that profile at 3500mm/s >> and it is dipping like this http://imagebin.org/301375 if you slow the >> feedrate down - the dips get scaled also. I would think at 3200mm/min >> it would flatten out. :) (probably another nit-pick) > > That's a good point, it shouldn't scale proportionally at lower feeds. Does > that keep happening at slower feeds like 3000 or 2500? If so, it might mean > that something's being limited that doesn't need to be. > > -Rob > > >> sam >> >> On 3/26/2014 1:27 PM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: >>> Hi Sam, >>> >>> This acceleration limitation is by design, so that the TP can deal with >>> tangential and normal acceleration separately. On a circular arc segment, >>> the acceleration along the path is limited to 0.5 * a_max. Using the >>> pythagorean theorem, the maximum normal acceleration is: >>> >>> sqrt( a_max^2 - (1/2*a_max) ^2 ) = sqrt(3/2) * a_max ~= .866 * a_max >>> >>> So, if your maximum axis acceleration is 30 in/sec^2, then the TP only >>> moves fast enough around the arc to create 25.98 in/sec^2 of normal >>> acceleration. This way, if you have to speed up or slow down during an >> arc >>> move, the total acceleration it won't exceed the machine maximum. >>> >>> A good analogy is high-speed cornering with a car on a twisty road. >> There's >>> a maximum speed you can go around the corner before the tires slip. >>> However, if you actually drive at that speed and have to hit the brakes, >>> you're in trouble :). So, to be safe, you go a little slower so that you >>> can slow down if need be. >>> >>> The good news is, this particular limit on tangential vs. cornering >>> acceleration gets you pretty close to top speed. For example, on a 0.1" >>> radius, a max normal acceleration of 26 in/sec^2 gives you a max speed of >>> sqrt( 26 in/sec^2 * 0.1 in) ~= 1.61 in/sec. Compare that to 30 in/sec^2, >>> which gives you sqrt( 30 in/sec^2 * 0.1 in) ~= 1.73 in/sec (about 7% >>> difference). >>> >>> I just hard-coded this because it seemed to give me the best speed on my >>> test runs. Maybe it could be an INI parameter? You could potentially get >> a >>> little performance from a program with lots of circular arcs by reducing >>> the tangential acceleration in favor of normal acceleration. Conversely, >>> making tangential and normal acceleration both sqrt(2) * a_max might move >>> more quickly in programs with a lot of detail like stellabee1.ngc. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:47 PM, sam sokolik <sa...@empirescreen.com> >> wrote: >>>> I have a question about the acceleration limits. (and I might be >>>> nit-picking here) But I have been goofing around with the >>>> trochoidal.ngc file from http://www.vagrearg.org/gcmc/trochoidal.ngc.gz >>>> >>>> I see when I push the velocity up to 3500mm/min - the peak velocity >>>> starts to dip (this is with 30in/s^2 acc) >>>> >>>> http://imagebin.org/301375 >>>> >>>> but you can see that the acc doesn't get to 30in/s^2 - it seems to peak >>>> at about 26 or so. I did play around with the gap freq in the ini file >>>> (setting it to my servo period of 1000) and it may have helped just a >>>> little bit. >>>> >>>> http://imagebin.org/301376 (acc peaks just a little higher) >>>> >>>> is this just a limitation of the whole system? It it still way way >>>> better than the current tp - but was wondering what was causing this. >>>> >>>> sam >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book >>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and >> their >>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, >>> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-developers mailing list >>> Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book >> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their >> applications. 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