On Saturday 13 October 2018 04:49:40 theman whosoldtheworld wrote:

> I'm sorry but my English is rubbish ... you're trying to measure and /
> or chase the ripple of a sheet metal for a laser system (measuring or
> cutting .... for example, like those used to cut gold ?)
>
> bkt
>
>
Not quite that.

I have a laser cartridge  made to look like a 38 caliber pistol 
cartridge, with its back battery cap removed and about 22" od .375" 
brass tubing threaded at 50 tpi screwed into that, with a teflon plug in 
both ends, and a brass screw in each teflon plug, with a wire between 
the screws. I've made a pair of spring contacts, one to ride the OD of 
the tubing sticking out of the rear of the spindle, and one to ride the 
screw head on the end. + terminal of a 1.7 volt wall wart to the 
tubing, - to the screw. So the laser is running on a stable supply but 
dimmer than if it was running on 3 volts and 15 USD worth of batteries. 
It is mounted in an 3/8" er20 collet in a TTS toolholder, which in turn 
is in the 8"4jaw and the TTS holder had been adjusted in the 4 jaw four 
about .0003" runout.

When the laser is powered up along with the spindle, it eccentricity at 
the tip of a dead center wobbles about 20 thou around the tip of a dead 
center, and the tailstock has been adjusted to center that wobble.

With nothing in the beams path, a small CDS cell stuck in a gob of 
modeling clay has been mounted in the tailstock barrel, and the clay 
adjusted so the center of the spinning beam is on the center of the CDS 
cell.  With the laser off, the CDS is subject to the room lighting and 
has a R value of about 2.7k. With the laser on, its about 250 ohms.

A sheet metal piece to serve as knife edge is attached to the toolpost so 
it can be adjusted with the X jog dial, which I can jog the x in .0001" 
steps to block around half the beam, and the spindle is run at 600 revs, 
so the lag of the CDS cell tends to average the resistance reading.

But it may be that the rev rate is too well synchronized to the DVM's A/D 
rate, something I'll check today by running the spindle at 625 revs to 
see if I can see the same reading wobble I can see at 500 revs, its 
quite a bit of reading wobble, about 100 ohms pear to peak at 500. I can 
go faster, but will need to loosen the front spindle cap to control the 
heat as 1/2 hour at 600 gets it up to smelling the hot 5w-20 oil. Its a 
bronze bearing and the spindle is slightly tweaked from a fall-over that 
also destroyed the compound. Its been replaced with a carved cast iron  
block the same height as the compound, which of course isn't needed with 
the computer driving the x at any angle to the y.

I've very gently honed the high spots around the bed dings so they are a 
thou or less. This leaves bed wear, 70 years of it, mostly near the 
spindle, therefore I am using a point a few thou from touching the 
tailstock, which is carrying 3 each, pieces of 3/8" SS tubing up the 
right edge of the cross feed to get all the wireing from a cable chain 
at the rear of the carriage, to all the stuff on a new front apron 
replacing the old drive. The Z drive nut, the X motor and the jog dials 
and their mode switchs are on this 1/2" thick alu plate, bolted to the 
front of the carriage face.

The intention is to measure the offset from a touched off to zero X at 
the tailstock, measureing the offset needed to maintain the same ohms 
from the CDS cell as the carriage is driven, carrying the "knife edge" 
from the tailstock back to the side of the carriage just ticking the 
chuck.  Find those offsets, list then on paper, then edit into the 
points of a lincurve module, which will then autocorrect well enough to 
turn a cylinder within a thou even if its 4" in diameter and 2 feet long 
as long as its supported on both ends.

But everytime I move to the calibrated point at the tailstock, I have to 
re-touchoff by as much a .001" so theres still a need for a better means 
of averaging the CDS cell to get a stable R out of it. Thats todays 
project, finding the lack of repeatability. Because there is a bit 
over .001" backlash, I always get the 400 ohm setting by pulling out, 
and driving it back in, which should reduce any error from x drive 
backlash.

Its possible the laser itself isn't well centered in its holder, and 
further adjustments of the 4 jaw are needed to further reduce its 
eccentricity at the target. With the bent spindle and refaced backing 
plates, I might even have to resort to grinding the backing plates, I 
refaced them only enough to cut 100% of its face, so there could be some 
axial miss-alignment yet.  And thats just for starters. :-)

And that is what I am trying to do, calibrating a lincurve to make a worn 
bed fairly straight again.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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