We were hardly zero tier.
My complaint is that if you didn't go to the video meeting that there seemed to 
be no way to find out what happened, nor a way to see the discussion after the 
fact.

That is what I meant by two tier.

IMHO the first order of business of the video meeting would be to figure out 
how to include people not there with reasonable effort. The nice thing about 
maillists and chats is that they are self documenting.

There is nothing wrong with having video chats from time to time. But I think 
you are using it to force (relatively) quick decisions rather then an 
alternative way to comunnicate.

You want to get something done in this project faster - then become a developer 
and do it.
We very seldom refuse to incorporate work that was been merged.
I found out pretty early that if I wanted to do work that I thought might be a 
problem then I would ty to discuss on the maillist. Sometimes people answered, 
sometimes not. If not, then I would merge my work when ready. Nothing like 
merged work to motivate people to get involved.

Obviously, there are some things that we need to agree on - such as merge 
strategy that we must discuss to change, but the time it takes to discuss on 
mail list is actually an advantage.

What we are really missing is a vision to converge on and a leader to see it 
through.
And more developers. But that is no guarantee either - mackinekit had those and 
has petered out it seems, unfortunately.

But now that I have a link, at least I can see the summary of what you were 
thinking/discussing.

Chris
________________________________
From: Jérémie Tarot <silopo...@gmail.com>
Sent: November 24, 2022 3:40 PM
To: EMC developers <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat

Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 06:19, Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com> a
écrit :

> How about a summary write up?
>

Andy has just pointed to them so won't double.


> We are making a two tier project if we continue like this.
>

At least that's some tiers !
Seeing our inability to discuss and decide lately, at least to support
and/or free Andy, if not to look forward and plan for the future, we almost
look like a zero tier no-org :'(
Hopefully some things will come out of it because written channels have
proven inoperative these days...

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