On 3/20/26 11:44 PM, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers wrote:
Hm. I failed. I truly wanted to find some bits that we agree that
those LLMs can help us with.
Why is this a failure? Your views and priorities in using LLMs are
apparently different than what some other people (including me) think.
It is fine to have different views.
In the end it is a risk assessment whether to do one or the other thing.
And there we have not yet reached consensus and seen the end of discussion.
That said, what you do /privately/ is up to you. Nobody is telling you
not to use these tools. But there is a clear separation between what you
do privately and what you contribute publicly.
As long as there is no consensus and rule outline how to handle LLM
stuff, we all should refrain from contributing it publicly. Again, what
you do privately is up to you, but you are responsible for keeping a
clear separation when you want to contribute to the public repo(s).
... I am still quite confident that those LLMs can help making each
of us better - yes, everyone!
That is opinion, not fact. And going by the current research on the
issue, you may actually be wrong for many use cases. However, you are
welcome to do what you want to do, /privately/.
But, once you know what is in the magic box, the magic spontaneously
disappears.
Something I yet have no answer for is that we lack the capacity to
review everything in the level of detail that a potential killing
machine like a CNC-whatever deserves. I mean - we cannot just let
some robot program the code that controls robots, right?
So, why use it? If you cannot review it properly, then it is, by
definition, not safe to use. Please re-read Ken Thompsen's "Reflections
on Trusting Trust" why this is such a big issue (Trojans come in many
forms, but all give the same result).
Still, and if it is only for educating ourselves on the code base of
LinuxCNC, I consider contributions "mostly harmless"
For your /private/ use, again, go for it if you want to use it.
But I strongly disagree that this is "mostly harmless". It is harmless
at best, a potential Trojan horse if you are just lucky and very deadly
if you get unlucky.
To use another HHGTTG quote; You are about to be fed to the
<strike>LLM</strike> Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal...
Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far.
Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far, which, given your
current circumstances, seems more likely, consider how lucky you are
that it won't be troubling you much longer.
--
Greetings Bertho
(disclaimers are disclaimed)
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