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>From:  Rich Nute[SMTP:[email protected]]
>Sent:  Monday, October 14, 1996 8:50PM
>To:    [email protected]
>Cc:    [email protected]
>Subject:       Re: Do UL1950 Recognized PS's Need Fire Enclosures
>
>
>
>Hello from San Diego:
>
>
>At the urging of a colleague, I looked further into the question
>raised by Mike Rains, whether or not a power supply needs to be
>in a fire enclosure.
>
>(I had stated that all primary circuits required a fire enclosure.)
>
>In IEC 950 and its clones, Sub-clause 4.4.1 specifies two methods 
>for "achieving resistance to fire."
>     
>    Method 1:  Construction as specified in Sub-clause 4.4.2 
>               and 4.4.3.
>     
>    Method 2:  Fault tests as specified in Sub-clause 5.4.6,
>               third dashed paragraph.
>     
>Sub-clause 5.4.6 first dashed paragraph requires fault tests in 
>any components in primary circuits -- REGARDLESS whether the 
>primary circuit is in a fire enclosure or not.  
>
>The third dashed paragraph implies tests in addition to the 
>first dashed paragraph, i.e., such as overload.  Compliance with
>this paragraph, in addition to the first dashed paragraph,
>qualifies a circuit and its components for no fire enclosure.
>
>So, the standard does not require a fire enclosure for a power
>supply provided it is tested in accordance with BOTH first and
>third dashed paragraphs of Sub-clause 5.4.6.
>
>>>>This is a different reasoning process than that of Mike Rains.<<<
>
>
>Best regards,
>Rich
>
>
>
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Rich,

Our reasoning process is the same. I referenced clause 5.4.9, which
included,
by reference, the first and third dashed paragraphs of 5.4.6. Primary
circuit components weren't excluded. The power supply (primary and
secondary) is a single printed wiring assembly. The basic question
becomes: can we anticipate and design tests to simulate all the abnormal
and fault conditions that could start and spread a fire beyond the
equipment? 


Thanks for the time and interest. 

Best regards.
Mike Rains
>Foxboro Co.  
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