Thanks all for the replies. The one point of contention seems to be in what ways varnish impregnation is helpful. I think there are three aspects to this question:
1. Varnish as electrical insulation: Rich gives good reasons why varnish is not suitable as electrical insulation for safety purposes, and I agree so lets drop that one. 2. Varnish as a sealant per cl. 2.9.6 - As Mike Rains argues, a layer of varnish surrounding the transformer windings creates a microenvironment that is Pollution Degree 1, greatly reducing the creepages and in some cases clearances as well. I note Mike said "vacuum impregnation", which is not what we do at this time (we dip). I would think, though, that all we would have to accomplish is an envelope, not the complete filling of internal voids that vacuum impregnation is intended to achieve. Has anyone had acceptance of this idea from an agency? 3. Varnish as an encapsulant per cl. 2.9.7 - This clause mentions impregnation specifically but not varnish, and gives inspection criteria in addition to the test for sealed parts in 2.9.6. Again, I think this should be valid, but I wonder how hard it is to eliminate all "significant" voids in the sample, and what "significant" really means. Has anyone used this idea and had an agency accept it? How did they judge the significant voids? Thanks again for your input, Regards, Jim Eichner Statpower Technologies Corporation jeich...@statpower.com The opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend ---------- From: richn@anetMHS (Rich Nute){MHS:ri...@sdd.hp.com} To: JEichner ....4. Does our varnish impregnation help us in any way? No. For the purposes of safety, varnish is not considered an insulation. This is because (a) its thickness is not controlled, (b) its coverage is not necessarily 100%, and (c) it is considered fragile and subject to damage from handling. _____ It would seem reasonable to consider that the vacuum impregnation reduces the microenvironment surrounding the transformer windings from a pollution degree 2 to a pollution degree 1 when the equipment is located in a pollution degree 2 environment. This can help a little with primary-secondary end turn creepage distance issues. - Mike Rains _____ >jeich...@statpower.com wrote: >..... > > > 2. Does our varnish impregnation help us in any way? It covers the complete > core and windings, but obviously not the coil terminations. > >If your impregnation is according to 2.9.7 then there are no clearances and >creepage distances in the transformer. The construction can then be treated as >solid insulation according to 2.9.4, except the coil terminations, as you correctly >state. > > >Kind regards, >Horst Dierich, Convenor IEC TC74/WG6 >Germany >EMAIL: dier...@ibm.net >