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To John of Good Will:

I disagree with Tania, at least in the United States.

First, you need no one's permission to check a toaster to see if it works or
shocks. Tania's advice about UL and CSA restrictions only applies if you
replace parts or otherwise modify the product. If you do refurbish and sell
agency-approved products, you are required to either obliterate the approval
mark or go through the procedure Tania describes.

Second, I have discussed the applicability of the US National Electric Code
(NEC) with other compliance engineers. The wide consensus is that the NEC
applies to hard-wired or permanently installed products, but NOT to line-cord
connected appliances. Nationally Recognized Test Laboratory, (NRTL) approvals
of such appliances is not required by the NEC. Government agencies and
municipalities often have regulations requiring NRTL approvals for products
they purchase or allow in their facilities. Thus it is legal in the United
States to sell unproved products, whether new, used or reconditioned. But
most public agencies will not (do not allow themselves to) purchase such
products.

I think the original request was for information on a safe work environment
for the checking (and possible repair) of appliances. NEC regulations apply
to the installation, and I highly recommend GFI protectors on outlets. OSHA
requirements also apply, but I'm not familiar with them. Safety means such as
non-conductive work benches, rubber mats, isolation transformers, and proper
training are very important, and liability issues must be addressed.

I wish you well. It must be hard to operate a sheltered-work
recycle-intensive business in a land ruled by litigation.

[Usual disclaimer, especially applied to the last phrase, which is a purely
emotional response supported by no legally-binding facts :-) ]

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From: [email protected]
     ...  You are grossly afoul with UL (Underwriters Laboratories) or other 
     U.S. and Canadian safety agencies as well as with the NEC ...           
    

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To: Multiple recipients of list SAFETY
From: John Male, Goodwill Industries of Northern New England
Subject: Electrical Safety

Electrical safety is not my strong suit.  Our agency receives donated
electrical appliances which are then sold to the public.  We want to write
some policy and procedures for testing the appliances.  Does anyone have any
guidelines about testing for defects, the use of GFI's, and the need for a
grounding rubber mat.
Thanks.


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