Max,

Video cables come in at least 3 flavors.

1.  High Density 15 Pin VGA  to High Density 15 Pin VGA

2.  High Density 15 Pin VGA to BNC

3.  13W3 to 13W3 (e.g. Sun Microsystem's video cables)

For the types 1 and 3, there is typically an outer shield that
is connected to the D-shell connector at each end and is
separate from the R/G/B returns on the outside of the system
enclosure.

These tend to perform much better than type 2 above.  I have run
 into a lot of EMI problems with cables that are D-shell at one
end and BNC at the other.  This is because the BNC's must break
out of the D-shell shield near the monitor end.  This is improper
 termination of the outer shield from the D-shell.  Also, the BNC
coaxes do not have an ideal termination at the D-shell connector.
They can't possibly due to the non-coaxial geometry of the D-shell's
signal pins.  This  typically results in excessive RF currents on the
shields of this type of cable.  I am not saying that they can't pass B
limits, just  that they often don't.

In theory, if the R/G/B cables were BNC
to BNC and there was very low leakage through the outer
coax braid then they would be good for EMI suppression as the signal
and return currents would be on the interior surface of the coax
conductors due to the symetrical field distrubution (equal and opposite
signal and retune currents within the coax).  But the BNC to VGA 
construction
is far from this theoretical ideal.

Finally, if you disassemble most "low end" color displays (esp 15"
and smaller and cheap 17" models), you will find that they have
all but eliminated shielding of the video amp circuitry.  They tend
to have very poor shield termination of the D-shell at the monitor end
and very inductive connections between the various pieces of
"grounded" metal within the plastic enclosures.  So even if you use
properly designed cables, the poor EMC design of the monitor kills
you if you are using a high bandwidth video card at high resolutions.
I can only suspect that a lot of the cheap class B video displays out there
are qualified with video cards having very compromised output
bandwidth because they sure don't seem to pass with higher performance
graphics cards.

Regards,
[email protected]

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From: Max
To: Steve Chin
Cc: Jon D Curtis; mkelson; comp_lab; EMC-PSTC; Tony Fredriksson
Subject: Re: Immunity/Cables
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Friday, February 14, 1997 9:03AM


Steve,

%>Max, the amount of immunity a cable has is dependent upon the type of
%>shielding it has and how well it is connected to the case ground. I have
gone
%>through a whole bunch of gyrations with the cable vendors I work with (my
%>other responsibility at this company is high-speed signal cable 
development)
%>in order to build EMC-tight cables.
%>
%>If the cable is built and grounded well, then the likelyhood of a failure
due
%>to the effects of outside radiation is very low.
%>
%>Steve Chin
%>StreamLogic Corp.
%>Menlo Park, CA, USA
%>

That's been my experience also with PC's, workstations.  I haven't ever
tested anything to a severe industrial level, though.  However, I assume
there wouldn't be a problem if the cables were well shielded and connected
to the chassis.

This raises another interesting question concerning the connection of the
return to the chassis.  Years ago I did a survey of a variety of monitor
manufacturers to see if any of them used differential input.  All of them
said no.  In addition, I have checked PC's and workstations from many
manufacturers and never found any that didn't have the (video) cable
return connected to the case.  I assume, however, that without this
connection of return to the cabinet, a system would probably flunk
emission tests as well as immunity tests.

Has anyone had any experiences in this area?

Thanks, Max

Max Kelson
[email protected]

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