I'm looking for comments to the following:

I just received my copy of the draft proposal of UL1950/CSA 950 to 
incorporate changes in IEC 950 4th amendment.  This was worked up by the 
Bi-national Working Group for Information and Technology and 
Telecommunications Equipment.  It is dated February 6, 1997.

My concern has to do specifically with section 6.2 "TNV Circuits" in which 
they have chosen to reduce the peak voltage of a TNV circuit from 120 VDC in 
IEC 950 and replace it with a maximum of 60 VDC.  They did this in UL 
1950/CSA 950 3rd edition also.

The problem is that this Bi-national standard replaces UL-149 in the year 
2000.  As such all telecommunications equipment must be tested to this new 
standard to receive a Listing or recognition Mark from an NRTL.  The scope 
of UL 1950/CSA 950 specifically states that it applies to mains or battery 
powered ITE regardless of ownership or source of power.

This is going to cause a real big problem for equipment that is owned by the 
telcos since many of the newer technologies rely upon span powering for 
proper operation.  Examples are HDSL, ISDN, T1, and E1.  These technologies 
work by having the central office equipment supply a voltage simplexed with 
the digital signals over the Outside Plant Cable( telco lines).  These 
voltages allow enough power to be delivered over the telco lines to power 
repeaters and remote units located at the customer premise.  Typically these 
voltages are less than 140 VDC with respect to ground so that they will 
comply with Bellcore's Class A3 safety requirements.  Most of these devices 
reside in Industry standard channel banks or telecommunications shelves that 
are not designed to meet any type of creepage and clearance requirements.  
Some might meet basic insulation requirements for creepage and clearance at 
120 VDC, but do not even come close to meeting reinforced insulation 
requirements for power supplies that they would need to meet if they have to 
be classified as power supplies.

The telcos want to go farther which means lower power remote units or higher 
voltages (simple ohms law).  They also want span powering since power 
outages at the customer location do not cause loss of the telecommunications 
network.  As more and more companies install UPS's, they will want to 
transport voice and data even during power outages. The remote units are 
already about as low as they can go with respect to  power consumption.  The 
span voltages do not appear at the customer side of the demarcation point 
because the remote unit isolates the network interface from the customer 
interface and only sends out possibly sealing current(-48 VDC <100mA) and 
the digital signal.

The Baby Bells (RBOC's), GTE, and the independent service providers as well 
as AT&T, Sprint, MCI etc. now are asking for UL 1459 or UL1950 3rd edition 
recognition or listings on products they own.  Once UL-1459 goes away that 
only leaves UL1950/CSA 950.  As such they could replace all their host 
systems, shelves, channel banks etc with UL-1950/CSA 950 compliant ones.  
However that would cost BILLIONS and WOULD NOT BE DONE.  Instead they would 
probably just drop the Listing and /or Recognition requirement.  As such the 
new Telco equipment would not be checked at all for safety and would pose an 
even greater risk to individuals.

I would propose that an exemption be added that states something like the 
following:

Section 6.2
TNV 2 and TNV 3 circuits
Exception:  Equipment that is owned, operated and maintained by a public 
utility or telecommunications service provider may have voltages up to 120 
VDC on the network interface provided that they meet all other  requirements 
for TNV 2 or TNV 3 circuits and do not pass a voltage above 60 VDC to the 
Customer side of the telco demarcation point.
     
 Any comments please!

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