It would seem to me that this forum is to help compliance professionals in 
the difficulties encountered in their day-to-day work.  Not a place to air 
out grievances.   An email like the one below is not appropriate.  We are 
all professionals are we not?

I have my opinions too, but I will save them for another place and time. 
 Lord knows I have plenty to do with my time besides just deleting 
irrelevant email.

I am no just singling out this thread, there have been several and it is 
only the proverbial straw.

Doug Powell, Compliance Engineer
Advanced Energy Industries, Inc.

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From: JOHN ALLEN
To: [email protected]
Subject: One Mark discourse
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 5:54AM

Well, gee lets see. I work for....Therefore I want my mark to go away and
make everyone who is in this business equal.

OK, how about this. Everyone remove their brand name from products. Let's
have one mark and generic products only. Thats a free market system right???

Or we just have one lab become world wide dominate and only use their mark.
 naw.

Right now Government and Retailers have decided they want some proof of a
"safe" product. In the case of the US, an Independant Corporation took the
"bull" by the horns and created a set of standards to evauate products to.
They then created a mark whereby a manufacturer could display showing they
underwent this evaluation and complied. Governments, Retailers and Consumers
liked this idea and bought into it. Hooray for the progressive Corporation.
Now this Corporation got to big. Others started to complain that they wanted
a piece of the market too. The bad word "monopoly" arose and the Government
interviened to put a stop to it. Now these little guy's have the Government
backing their existance by law instead of by experience. But the big
Corporation has too much history and too much acceptance. So the little 
guy's
want to go back to the Government and have the individual marks done away
with so the can compete in a market they had nothing to do with developing.
They want a mark that is sanitized from any history or experience as being a
quality mark. They want the Government to control the market. They do not
want to build their acceptance the "Old Fashion Way" by hard work.

Like I said, Sounds like we need a World wide Government controlling all
products and approvals. Everything will be generic and have one name and one
mark. Oh and how about we just make everything Gray......

Now I have been an Agent, with two different labs and in manufacturing. I
understand the pain of multiple requirements. But I am willing to live with
this as opposed to the alternative I just outlined.

I will duct now and watch your fireworks.
Oh, one last thought. This diatribe is not to be misconstrued as having the
sanction of my employer.


John L. Allen, P.E.
Manager - Atlanta
Local Engineering Services
Underwriters Laboratories, Inc.
770-498-9156


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