'Single point ground' in this situation is used for the same purpose 
as we would in electronics design. When using a shielded room for 
making low frequency measurements (particularly MIL-STD), multiple 
ground connections can make significant power frequency and harmonic 
noise. Generally this is not so much of a problem for commercial 
operations because emission measurements are not as restrictive 
(either in frequency or in limit). Because,as Jon says, the conduit, 
etc. is not always reliable (particularly at the higher frequencies 
which filters are designed to shunt) an effort is made to provide 
ground through an independent means. I have used enclosures where 
great care has been taken (multiple 12' ground rods in close 
proximity, with Cu Sulfate 'salting') to provide a very 'robust' 
ground. This is then connected to both the enclosure and the building 
ground.

In some cases, you have to convince the electrician and/or the 
inspector that your room provides at least as good a ground as the 
conduit in order to be able to take advantage of the isolation 
provided by the PVC. It goes against their grain to connect a metal 
box without using metal conduit.

Bob Martin
Sr. Technical Manager
Intertek Testing Services
(978)263-2662
fax(978)263-7086
[email protected]

The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of my 
employer.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Jon D. Curtis [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Thursday, October 08, 1998 11:52 AM
To:     [email protected]
Cc:     [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject:        Re: Room grounding

As I understand it, Lingren connects the shielded rooms they build 
back to the
main building ground point by a separate ground wire.  The conduit is
disconnected by use of a plastic sleave.  I assume they do this 
because the AC
filters incorporated in the shielded room include LARGE capacitors to 
the
shielded room walls.  Effectively the leakage through these capacitors 
turns the
ENTIRE room surface into an AC electrode with respect to building 
ground.  This
leakage current is potentially leathal unless returned back to the 
source where
the neutrals of the building are tied to ground at the circuit panel.

Not grounding the room (if it incorporates standard room filters) 
should not be
considered acceptable.  If there is an regular outlet on an adjacent 
building
wall, then a lethal hazard will exist between a metal test instrument 
pluged into
that outlet and the room surface.  I would hazard a bet that most 
room
installations are not well enough controlled to insure that building 
ground and a
separate room ground are NEVER allowed to meet.  Consider that no 
sparks will fly
if it happens, but hearts may stop.  People automatically consider 
dead metal as
ground.

I would also caution against those in this thread who rely on conduit. 
 Conduit
breaks, is removed, etc.  For high leakage threats only a dedicated 
ground wire
of suitable gage to carry the total fault current of the supply should 
be
employed.

This is not about a single fault problem.  You have a hazardous 
condition with NO
fault because of filter leakage if you do not ground the room to the 
building
ground at the circuit panel.

Watch out for LISNs Also.  The design of all lisns incorporate LARGE 
capacitors
to ground for filtering.  Without a ground connection on the LISN 
case, high
leakage threats exist.  Most use LISNs bonded to the ground plane 
which addresses
this threat as long as the ground plane is connected to the building 
ground.

The debate on reduction of noise and effects on EMC results should 
continue, BUT
personel safety comes FIRST and should not be compromised.

[email protected] wrote:

> Mike,
>
> sorry you disagree.
>
> Inside the room, all equipment is referenced to the room itself, 
there is no
> new safety risk introduced by the room being grounded differently.
>
> Outside the room, again, all equipment is referenced tightly to the 
room, so
> the operator does not see any differential.
>
> Should lightning strike the building, then true, the building earth 
potential
> may lift, but the operator is protected because he is referenced to 
the room
> which will not move much because the energy has been dissipated by 
the
> building earthing system.
>
> I state again this is for performance reasons, and is accepted 
practice. In a
> true Faraday shielded room, earthing the room is not even 
neccessary. Mind
> you, since these don't exist off the shelf, I'll stick to grounding 
using my
> original guidlines. NEC inspectors, when the rationale is explained 
to them
> have little problem. However, I have come across situations were the 
two
> unique earths were tied by a very heavy inductor....
>
> Best regards,
>
> Derek N. Walton
>
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