I too have seen kids playing with these things.  Even Seinfeld had an
episode where someone had a bead on George's head all throughout the show.
I have also seen people with pointers that were marked class IIIb.

I have heard differing opinions from people who work with Ethernet and Fibre
Channel laser modules as to the various dangers of exposure to beams
exceeding class I and I am not comfortable with my lack of knowledge on this
subject.  Can anyone explain or point to a good resource that explains the
various types and classes of lasers commonly used in our field, and the
physiological effects of exposure to these?

Thanks,

Glenn Lesmeister
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
                Sent:   Tuesday, November 10, 1998 3:28 PM
                To:     [email protected]
                Cc:     [email protected]
                Subject:        Re: Laser pointers 

                Thank you for this notice. We do not make laser pointers but
as a Laser
                Safety Officer I am quite surprised that these devices are
allowed on the
                market. We use Class IIIb lasers in our products and take
great care to
                prevent user access to these levels of laser light. But
these pointers are
                everywhere and can be at least annoying and possibly even
potentially
                dangerous.

                An example. I attended an annual celebration at a local
community that
                boasts great fireworks. The vendors were all there selling
various wares,
                balloons, glow in the dark things, etc. One of the hottest
items was laser
                pointers. Many kids (or their parents who had the cash)
bought these and
                they played tag and had "laser wars". I was quite surprised
when my son
                pointed out a bright red dot on my shirt. I looked up right
into the eye
                of one of these pointers. No harm done, no permanent damage
caused,
                probably because I know enough what I was seeing and looked
away pretty
                fast.

                Now think of this. Driving down the highway at night and
some kid starts
                "shining" cars and/or drivers behind them. At the least the
natural
                aversion response should kick in and cause someone to look
away. But it is
                possible to have some driver get surprised, yank on the
wheel and crash or
                worse...

                Yes, this might seem like a far-fetched possibility and it
might be
                improbable to have serious accidents or deaths caused, but
are you willing
                to take that chance? I, for one, am not.

                Make no mistake, these laser pointers are tools, just like
any other. But
                you don't let you kid shoot their BB gun at the neighbors or
cars passing
                down the road, or use your nail gun for target practice, do
you? These
                pointers, properly used and not misused are a great tool.
But in the hands
                of un-supervised kids, well, I leave that to your
imagination.

                BTW, these devices can be rated anywhere from Class II to
Class IIIa or
                Class IIIb, depending on the laser source. As such, I wonder
if they
                should be restricted in sales to adults only. Also, there
has been some
                talk of banning them in some localities in the US but none
have so far as
                I know.

                Regards,
                Scott
                [email protected]


                [email protected] writes:
                >Dear group, 
                >
                >FYI: 
                >
                >For reason of consumer protection, laser pointers of class
3 and higher,
                >according to EN60825-1, are banned for a period of one year
from the
                >Belgian market. Products already in commerce should be
removed from the
                >stores. This ruling was published on 16 September 1998 in
the official
                >"Belgisch Staatsblad - Moniteur Belge" by Ministrial Decree
No. 98-2461.
                >
                >
                >Are there any other countries that also have a ban on the
sales of laser
                >pointers of class 3 and higher? 
                >  
                >Jean-Marie Vandenbulcke
                >Snr. Product Safety and Compliance Engineer.
                >
                >Barco NV   
                >Div Barco Projection Systems
                >Noordlaan 5  B-8520 Kuurne Belgium
                >Tel: + 32  56 36 83 31  Fax: + 32 56 36 83 55
                >E-mail: [email protected]
                >Web: http://www.barco.com
                >
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