How about the converse, are there reasons not to put the ferrites on? Using
this example and assuming I had a balanced bicon so didn't need the
ferrites. If I put on a log periodic would I have to put ferrites on for
that?
If there is no drawback to the ferrites, then it seems that it would be
prudent to have them anyway? I'm afraid I have put them on simply because
...... Am I overlooking a tradeoff when using these, sensitivity etc.
Gary McInturff


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   WOODS, RICHARD [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent:   Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:45 AM
        To:     [email protected]
        Subject:        RE: ANSI C63.4

        Hans, you raised a very good point that needs to be discussed - the
need for
        ferrites on the antenna cable. I have read articles indicating that
adding
        the ferrites when taking NSA measurements was the only way they
could make
        their site compliant. But I have also heard that the reason the
ferrites are
        needed in those cases is that the antenna - most likely a bicon - is
poorly
        balanced. I have also heard that a properly balanced bicon does not
need
        ferrites. Comments anyone?

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                From:  [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
                Sent:  Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:13 AM
                To:  [email protected];
[email protected]
                Subject:  Re: ANSI C63.4

                A1. Since concrete is partly conductive and varies with
mositure
        content and
                ambient conditions, the reflected path with vary
substantially. The
        solution
                is to place a screen mesh over the top of the concrete.
                A2. The specified size is that of the elipse which is 2d by
root3d.
        A
                practical size is 20m by 17m rectangle.
                A3. running coax on the top surface most likely will not
affect the
                measurements but for NSA measurements, to obtain maximum
        repeatability ferrite
                cores are placed every 1m on the mast cable. It would be
best to
        feed the
                cables diametrically opposed from each other so as to
minimize any
        effects.
                A4. Theoretically the conrete curbs, the hedges and metal
object can
        cause
                additional unwanted reflections. Those may or may not be a
problem.
        Metal
                objects will have the greatest effect since most of the wave
will be
                reflected. Hedges will most likely act as absorbers at
certain
        frequencies,
                and the curb will cause reflections or absorbtion at certain
        microwave
                frequencies.
                Hans Mellberg
                EMC Consultant

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