Ron Hi!

In short, the new CB full Certification Scheme will allow acceptance 
by another CB member of BOTH the test results and construction. 
Under the present scheme, another CB member should accept test 
results but has the right to ask for sample(s) and other pertinent 
information for a construction evaluation.

Based on my experience, CB could be a "pain in the neck". Here 
is one example:

Consider a product with an Approved Switching Power Supply. 
Unless the power supply has a CB Test Report of its own (and 
most do not!) the certification agency must include an evaluation of 
the power supply. This means you have to contact the power 
supply manufacturer and ask him to provide all the necessary 
information and/or samples needed by the certification agency in 
order to issue the CB Certificate. Now imagine a manufacturer had 
more than one or altenate power supplies in his product. 

As we all know, most power supplies in the market today are UL 
Recognized and/or CSA Certified and TUV/VDE Approved. 
Therefore, it seems that the best approach to get a CB for a 
product with switching power supply(ies) is to go to UL/CSA/TUV 
or VDE, all who have a record of the power supply safety evaluation 
(including schematics, parts list, etc.). This really is not fair to the 
other CB certifiers who have paid lots of money to get their labs 
accredited under the CB program.

Regards

PETER MERGUERIAN

>  Hi Rich,
>  
>  Not sure what the flag-waving was all about, but we also get a CB 
>  certificate/test report with each national safety approval we get. The 
> reason 
>  we still do is that we have on numerous occasions taken advantage of the CB 
>  stuff with virtually 100% success. We also use it as the basis for 
> compliance 
>  with the LVD.
>  
>  Also, what's the "new Full CB Certification Scheme" all about?
>  
>  BTW, it might be interesting to see how many of us safety types use the CB 
>  Scheme.
>  
>  Best regards,
>  Ron Pickard
>  [email protected]
> 
> 
> ______________________________ Reply Separator 
> _________________________________
> Subject: Why are CB reports truly useful? 
> Author:  Rich Nute <[email protected]> at INTERNET
> Date:    11/20/98 12:13 PM
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Why are CB reports truly useful?
>  
>  
> 1.  The CB Certificate and Test Report are sufficient to
>     prove compliance to the Low Voltage Directive and 
>     thereby back up the use of the CE mark on the product.
>  
>     The CE mark is required in the EU.  The CE mark is 
>     also accepted in the EFTA countries.
>  
> 2.  The CB Certificate and Test Report facilitates product
>     certification in any country (e.g., China) who is a 
>     member of the CB Scheme.  Ideally, testing is not 
>     repeated, and only a limited number (or even no) 
>     samples are required.  Furthermore, CB Scheme 
>     certification houses are encouraged to provide 
>     priority service to CB submittals.
>  
>     For a list of CB Scheme countries, see:
>  
>         http://www.cbscheme.org/
>  
>     (The major world area not a member of the CB Scheme 
>     is South America.)
>  
>     Think of the CB Certificate and Test Report as a 
>     passport for the product.
>  
> 3.  If you certify your products at a NCB certification
>     house, then you have one-stop shopping for product 
>     safety certification.  You can get both national 
>     certification and the CB at the same time, and for 
>     a reduced combination price.  
>  
>     Many North American certification houses offer USA, 
>     Canada, and CB with one submittal for a very favorable 
>     schedule and cost.
>  
> The goal is one test, one certification worldwide.  The 
> CB Certificate and Test Report is the means to this goal.
> The more we use the CB Scheme, the more it will be accepted 
> throughout the world.  A new CB program, the Full Certification 
> Scheme, is currently nearing completion.  This is another
> major step towards one test, one certification.
>  
> If you market in multiple countries, the CB Scheme is the 
> best means for obtaining multiple certifications!
>  
> We buy a CB Certificate and Test Report for all products.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Rich
>  
>  
>  
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