I'm sorry I disagree with Mike's assessment. To take that argument to
it's logical conclusion would mean that I have to test the AC side at
the same time as I did my I/O. I've been told before by a couple of test
houses in the UK that all the cables at once is not acceptable according
to UKAS (UK test house accreditation agency). In section 6.3 of the
standard paragraph 5 says " The clamp itself shall be closed as much as
possible to provide maximum coupling capacitance between the cable and
the clamp" (no plurals there). This test is difficult enough to
reproduce this test from set up to set up without introducing the
uncertainties of  how a bundle of cables was arranged in the clamp.  

Regards,

Kevin Harris
Manager, Approval Services
Digital Security Controls
1645 Flint Road
Downsview, Ontario
CANADA
M3J 2J6

Tel +1  416 665 8460 Ext. 378
Fax +1 416 665 7753 

email: [email protected]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike  Hopkins [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 3:34 PM
> To:   'Collins, Erik D.'; 'emc-pstc list server'
> Subject:      RE: EN 61000-4-4
> 
> Place all cables in the clamp together........ I agree the standard is
> not
> clear, but the intent was always that all the I/O cables be placed in
> the
> clamp together.
> 
> The idea is to simulate transients being coupled between lines in
> cable
> trays, especially where noisey ac lines are run near or adjecent to
> I/O
> lines. It's not likely the signals would be coupled to one line and
> not to
> another; in fact, because of the very fast pulses, everything gets
> very well
> coupled very quickly.
> 
> Mike Hopkins
> [email protected]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Collins, Erik D. [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent:       Monday, December 14, 1998 10:40 AM
> > To: 'emc-pstc list server'
> > Subject:    EN 61000-4-4
> > 
> > When performing EFT/B on signal and control lines using the
> capacitive
> > coupling clamp, should you:
> > 
> >     1.  Place all cables in the clamp together
> >     2.  Place all cables in the clamp independently
> >     3.  Both
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Erik D. Collins
> > EMI/EMC Approvals Engineer
> > LXE Inc.
> > Phone 770-447-4224 x3240
> > Fax       770-447-6928
> > 
> > Check out our website @:
> > http://www.lxe.com
> > 
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