RE: my request of a couple of weeks ago for EMC compliance horror
stories:  

Thanks to all who shared humorous and real horror stories.  I have
shared most of them with my management.

While the stories of good intentioned designs gone bad were helpful, I
just wish I had more accounts of manufacturers/integrators getting into
legal difficulties over non-compliance with EMC rules.

Jim Knighten
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          From: "Grasso, Charles (Chaz)" <[email protected]>
          Subject: RE: Looking for Horror Stories
          Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:54:13 -0600 
          To: 'emc-pstc list server' <[email protected]>, "'Knighten,
Jim'" <[email protected]>, "'WOODS, RICHARD'"
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          Cc: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>


        > You will have to go back a number of years to find the first
        > non-EMEmissions standard. As I recall, the first EME standard
was 
        > actually VDE 0871 and the German government was concerned
        > primarily with emissions interfering with legitimate
communication.
        > Largely as a result of that CBEMA released a document that
finally
        > became
        > FCC CFR47 Part 15. And so an industry was born.
        > 
          
        > 
        > Thank you
        > Charles Grasso
        > EMC Engineer
        > StorageTek

        It would be interesting to know when the first VDE commercial
emission standard was published. However, I know that the FCC Part 15
and Part 18 emission requirements were in place as early as 1968. I
started out doing field measurements for Part 18 industrial stuff (like
RF welding and RF industrial process equipment). I still have very vivid
memories of measuring "field strength at a 1000 foot radius on each of
18 radials" and "at 1 mile on the strongest radial", whether in the
middle of a cornfield or the edge of a river.

        I also did Part 15 CE and RE testing, and sometimes a
manufacturer used the same FCC data and compared it to the existing VDE
spec limits. It was my understanding that the FCC and VDE conducted
emission protocol was based on the Military Mil-I-6181 spec (in which
there was a design note on the construction of a 5 uH LISN). The use of
an LISN traces back to a US Army Air Force WWII study on a medium bomber
power bus interference.

        I don't have much factual basis, but my guess is that German
regulatory activities suffered a bit of a discontinuity circa 1945, and
that, by the time VDE got its first new issue of pencils, they decided
to use the existing FCC and US Mil precedents.

        If I've been around since before the industry was born, does
that place me among the undead? But, having been certified that I'm not
a competent body, whadda I know? 

        Ed

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        Ed Price
        [email protected]
        Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
        Cubic Defense Systems
        San Diego, CA.  USA
        619-505-2780
        Date: 07/15/1998
        Time: 15:36:45
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