Vitaly, Noun Derivative: I don't know about the rest of you, but I have been feeling like a "schlepper" for quite some time. I have not been able to put a name on it until now. (MS Word 97 does NOT recognize the noun form, "schlepper.")
Jim Knighten P.S.: As an indication of how informative this exchange has been for me, I looked up Sisyphus (see Ed Price, below) on the web. Ed's use of this Greek mythological character is most appropriate. See the quote below: "The original Sysyphus was a greek king only spoken of in legends. He was known only for the splendor of his life, and for the measure of his payment in the afterlife. We can only imagine the splendor of his reign, and only imagine the extent of the price paid by his subjects to sustain this life of luxury. Forever, in a place not far removed from the fields of Elysium, Sysyphus was to spend eternity toiling in moving a boulder up the face of a mountain. Each agonized moment of the day he would move the colossal rock up the steep mountainside, glimpsing the idylls of those who had rightly spent their lives, the heros and well-loved, only a small way away and without care, whilst he toiled to pay for his own life. At the end of each day, not nearly at the end of his labor, our Sysyphus would fail, falling into exhaustion and laying prone beside the object of his eternal effort as it cavorted down the face of the mountain, only for him to regain his place, pushing it up the mountain again. Perhaps this would explain the thunder that would be heard at the end of day, when the day was hard and hot, when no storm was near. We will spare no effort in bringing you the opulence of that kingdom, no obstacle will be left unscaled. Tristan [email protected]" Dr. Jim Knighten e-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Senior Consulting Engineer NCR 17095 Via del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com <http://www.ncr.com> Tel: 619-485-2537 Fax: 619-485-3788 -----Original Message----- From: Gorodetsky, Vitaly [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:03 AM To: 'Knighten, James L'; [email protected]; 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor; [email protected] Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing Ed, Thanks for your eloquent linguistic excursion. I am wondering whether there is a noun derivative from SCHLEP. It could be a nice synonym for Compliance Engineering and schlepper would be a recognizable term in everyone's resume for compliance engineer. Best Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: Knighten, James L [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 3:57 PM > To: [email protected]; Knighten, James L; 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor; > [email protected]; Gary McInturff > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > > Ed and Others, > > Thanks for the lesson in colloquial jargon. > > Obviously, I have been schlepping all these many years and did not realize > it. > > Just a final note: MS Word 97's spell checker recognizes both "schlep" > and > "schlepping." > > Jim > > Dr. Jim Knighten e-mail: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Senior Consulting Engineer > NCR > 17095 Via del Campo > San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com <http://www.ncr.com> > Tel: 619-485-2537 > Fax: 619-485-3788 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 5:40 PM > To: Knighten, James L; 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor; > [email protected]; Gary McInturff > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > > James: > > Schlep is a little descriptive verb I learned during a three year > long exile in Northern New Jersey. It's Yiddish, meaning to haul, to drag, > to sweat, to expend considerable energy with little reward and no respect. > It's five steps forward and four steps back, plus you stub your toe. And > there's a rock in your shoe. And you just might be developing a blister. > Sisyphus was a schlepper. > > Yes, it's certainly a military term, although each service and era > assigns a new name to it. But, now that I think about it, maybe a trip to > the parking lot doesn't quite measure up to schlepping. > > ;-) > Ed > > > > ------------------------ > From: "Knighten, James L" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:37:35 -0700 > To: [email protected], 'Brent DeWitt' <[email protected]>, > Allen Tudor <[email protected]>, [email protected], Gary McInturff > <[email protected]> > > > > Ed, > > > > I'm not familiar with the verb "to schlep." > > > > Is this a specialized technical term, perhaps particular to EMC or > to the > > military arena? > > > > Jim > > > > Dr. Jim Knighten e-mail: [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Senior Consulting Engineer > > NCR > > 17095 Via del Campo > > San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com > <http://www.ncr.com> > > Tel: 619-485-2537 > > Fax: 619-485-3788 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:38 PM > > To: 'Brent DeWitt'; Allen Tudor; [email protected]; Gary > > McInturff > > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > > > > The roof alternative has been done more than a few times. > Emaco (now > > part of TUVPS) in San Diego had a pair of pneumatic lifts which > travelled > > from their second floor through the roof. The test specimen and > antenna > > could be set up on their respective elevators, pushed up through > the roof, > > and come to rest level with the roof ground plane. > > > > I imagine that they did have some problems with weathering > of > > conductive interfaces and water leakage, but it did serve them > well for a > > few years. > > > > BTW, I agree that the "parking lot" option is better than > trying to > > live with a test site WITHIN a commercial office structure. There > have been > > several posters who already described the problems found inside > the > > building. Some of the problems with a parking lot site are: > > > > 1. Sometimes the cars encroach on the site. > > 2. You have to schlep all your stuff out to the site, and > back again > > at night. > > 3. Sometimes, your utilities get mysteriously shut off, > > necessitating a call to your plant facilities guy (for a big > company; for > > little companies, you get to look for the breaker yourself). > > 4. Flooding. > > 5. Wind can knock over your test antenna mast. Securing the > mast > > each night adds another housekeeping task. > > 6. Sunburn. (If I'm gonna get sunburned, let it be with a > yacht > > beneath my feet.) > > 7. Ants and rodents. (You are only one step short of a > picnic.) > > 8. Snow. Ice. Wind chill factor. (Enough said.) > > > > Ed > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > ------------------------ > > From: Gary McInturff <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > > Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:11:30 -0700 > > To: 'Brent DeWitt' <[email protected]>, Allen Tudor > > <[email protected]>, [email protected] > > > > > > > I'll agree with Brent, and others, the headaches of a > metal room > > or the > > > metal studs et al, in a building are going to make you > pull your > > hair out. > > > But there is an alternative to the parking lot. You may > want to > > consider the > > > roof. The ground reference can be put up there as well, > especially > > if you > > > are doing pre-compliance stuff. You don't have to give up > parking > > space - > > > which is sure to irate somebody. The roof gets a little > hot, but > > that only > > > gives you the opportunity to work in your cutoffs, and > showing up > > to a > > > meeting with the suits dressed like this is always good > for a > > laugh! > > > Gary > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brent DeWitt [SMTP:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:12 PM > > > To: Allen Tudor; [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: Precompliance Testing > > > > > > Allen, > > > > > > From bunches of years of designing and using sites, > what I > > would > > > suggest is, > > > IMHO, use the money to reserve a large space in the > parking > > lot free > > > of > > > obstacles. Current construction techniques in > buildings use > > lots of > > > steel > > > "2x4s" for the walls and there will likely be steel > in the > > floor > > > above you. > > > All of these contribute to resonances in the > emissions > > measurements > > > that are > > > far too difficult to want to deal with. The best > way to do > > radiated > > > measurements is to be a minimalist. Get as far away > from > > any > > > structure as > > > you can, put down a simple hardware cloth ground > plane and > > throw a > > > nylon > > > tent over the product if it rains. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Brent DeWitt > > > Datex-Ohmeda Medical > > > Louisville, CO > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On > Behalf Of > > Allen Tudor > > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 1:27 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Precompliance Testing > > > > > > > > > > > > Our division is in the process of constructing a > new > > building. I > > > > have been told that I will be given a room in > which to > > make > > > > pre-compliance radiated emissions measurements. > However, > > ferrite > > > > tiles or cones are out of the question (I have > been told > > that I > > > > can hang "chicken-wire" on the walls if I want > to). > > > > > > > > Even though I am restricted in how much money can > be > > spent, I > > > > have the luxury of designing in features as the > building > > is being > > > > constructed. > > > > > > > > At a bare minimum, I think we should lay sheet > metal or > > grid-wire > > > > on the floor after the concrete is poured. This > ground > > plane > > > > should be grounded at each corner by ground rods. > I am > > thinking > > > > that if there is no steel framework near the room, > this > > may > > > > provide fairly good results. > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any recommendations on other > cheap > > features > > > > that I can design in while the building is under > > construction. > > > > Also, what is the minimum size the room should be? > How > > about > > > > power wiring in the walls and in the ceiling. > Should any > > > > measures be taken to prevent radiated energy from > coupling > > into > > > > power wiring? > > > > > > > > Perfection is not the key issue here: > repeatability is. > > We have > > > > a local certified lab that I can compare my > measurements > > with. > > > > Once the room is complete, I can repeat my > measurements at > > the > > > > certified lab and develop the necessary correction > > factors. > > > > > > > > By the way, my product is dc powered shelf-level > telecom > > > equipment. > > > > > > > > Again, any advice will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Allen Tudor, Compliance Engineer > > > > PairGain Technologies tel: > (919)875-3382 > > > > 2431-153 Spring Forest Rd. fax: > (919)876-1817 > > > > Raleigh, NC 27615 > email: > > > > [email protected] > > > > -------------------------- > > Ed Price > > [email protected] > > Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab > > Cubic Defense Systems > > San Diego, CA. USA > > 619-505-2780 > > Date: 05/03/1999 > > Time: 13:37:40 > > Military & Avionics EMC Services Our Specialty > > Also Environmental / Metrology / Reliability > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > > --------- > > This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] > > with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the > > quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], or > > [email protected] (the list administrators). > > > > ---------------End of Original Message----------------- > > -------------------------- > Ed Price > [email protected] > Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab > Cubic Defense Systems > San Diego, CA. 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