But Lou, it would be "safe" smoke! Ed
------------------------ From: Lou Gnecco <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Excessive smoke Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:53:19 -0400 To: [email protected] > Group: > Here is a typical example of what is wrong with those european > standards. Question: If you bought a TV set, turned it on, and it started to > smoke, wouldn't you consider that a "failure?" > I dont know what they do in europe, but here in america we would > return it and get our money back. > > Lou > > > At 12:06 AM 4/17/99 +0300, you wrote: > >Dear Jeff, > > > >If a product smokes after an abnormal test it is not considered a > >failure. If the smoke was from an electrolytic capacitor, some test > >agencies might ask you to submit a declaration fom the capacitor > >manufacturer that the elecrolyte is not toxic. > > > >In regards to SEMI, if a product smoked after an abnormal test, it > >is also not considered a failure. > > > >Best Regards, > > > >> I'm full of questions this week. Here's today's. > >> > >> If a component abnormal test generates excessive and sustained smoke > >> (several minutes), but does'nt breach reinforced or double insulation, nor > >> emit flame from the enclosure, is it considered a failure? Intuitively, it > >> seems like it would be, because of toxicity, but I have been unable to find > >> anything in the safety standards to support this. I have checked EN 60950, > >> EN 50178, UL 1012, and CSA C22.2 No. 107.1. > >> > >> By the way, this product could be used in clean room applications. I am > >> familiar with Semi S2, but it is unclear as to the degree of smoke allowed. > >> Section 19.1 says, "The use of combustible and smoke-generating materials > >> in > >> the construction of the process equipment should be limited." In this > >> case, > >> it was a PCB that smoked. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Jeff Jenkins > >> Senior Regulatory Compliance Engineer > >> Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. > >> Fort Collins, CO USA 80525 > >> > >> Opinions are my own and not necessarily shared by Advanced Energy > >> Industries, Inc. or its affiliates. > >> > > > >PETER S. MERGUERIAN > >MANAGING DIRECTOR > >PRODUCT TESTING DIVISION > >I.T.L. (PRODUCT TESTING) LTD. > >HACHAROSHET 26, P.O.B. 211 > >OR YEHUDA 60251, ISRAEL > > > >TEL: 972-3-5339022 > >FAX: 972-3-5339019 > >E-MAIL: [email protected] > >Visit our Website: http://www.itl.co.il > > -------------------------- Ed Price [email protected] Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 619-505-2780 List-Post: [email protected] Date: 04/19/1999 Time: 08:43:50 Military & Avionics EMC Services Our Specialty Also Environmental / Metrology / Reliability -------------------------- --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to [email protected] with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], or [email protected] (the list administrators).
