Posted for Jim Knighten:



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  From: "Knighten, James L" <[email protected]>
  Subject: RE: Visible Light & EMC
  Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:45:31 -0800 
  To: Allen Tudor <[email protected]>, [email protected]


> Allen,
> 
> "Electromagnetic energy" in the radio spectrum doesn't travel the same way
> through all solid objects.  The properties of its propagation are dependent
> on material properties of the solid.  There are losses (conductive losses
> and losses in dielectrics) and there are properties that influence
> wavelength and velocity (permittivity, permeability, and even conductivity).
> Some materials have different properties at different frequencies, hence
> they are dispersive (some frequencies travel at higher velocities than
> others).  We know that some materials are good reflectors (mirrors) of radio
> frequency energy (good conductors).
> 
> So, why shouldn't the travel of light, which you assert is also
> electromagnetic energy, be similarly influenced by the properties of the
> solid material that it is traveling through?  Some solids are good
> reflectors (polished mirrored surfaces).  Translucent materials are lossy
> materials to visible light.  Transparent materials have low loss to light.
> 
> Radio frequency waves have longer wavelengths than visible light.  One of
> the consequences of this is that it is harder find solids that form infinite
> planes, or are semi-infinite in a dimension.  Hence, you witness more
> effects caused by the edges of solids than you do with visible light.  This
> makes it more difficult to perform the exact "dual" experiments in both
> media.
> 
> We believe that electromagnetic energy behaves according to Maxwell's
> equations.  Does light?  I think we do not know because we cannot perform
> the same kind of experiments (make the same sorts of observations) at these
> short wavelengths that we can at RF frequencies.  Maxwell's equations are
> macroscopic.  At the microscopic level, behavior may have to be described
> differently.
> 
> Are RF and light manifestations of the same phenomenon?  I think the answer
> is yes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jim
> 
> Dr. Jim Knighten              e-mail: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> Senior Consulting Engineer
> NCR
> 17095 Via del Campo
> San Diego, CA 92127           http://www.ncr.com <http://www.ncr.com> 
> Tel: 619-485-2537
> Fax: 619-485-3788
> 
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Allen Tudor [SMTP:[email protected]]
>       Sent:   Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:14 AM
>       To:     [email protected]
>       Subject:        Visible Light & EMC
> 
>       This question sounds goofy, but here goes anyway....
> 
>       Why doesn't visible light travel through solid objects (plastic,
> wood, etc)?  Unless I've totally missed the boat, visible light is
> electromagnetic energy beginning at about 100,000GHz.  So why doesn't it
> behave like electromagnetic energy in the radio spectrum?  My guess is that
> it has something to do with the wavelength vs. the thickness of the object.
> 
> 
> 
>       Allen Tudor, Compliance Engineer
>       PairGain Technologies                  tel:  (919)875-3382
>       2431-153 Spring Forest Rd.           fax: (919)876-1817
>       Raleigh, NC  27615                           email:
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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Ed Price
[email protected]
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Systems
San Diego, CA.  USA
619-505-2780
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Date: 03/12/1999
Time: 11:50:54
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