All,

I didn't get out a tape measure, but I believe a bilog antenna
is taller than a bicon antenna in the vertical polarity,
and would be closer to the floor at the minimum antenna height
of 1 m (for most test procedures.)

For that reason, I believe there would be more coupling to
the ground plane from a bilog than a bicon. However, since you have
ferrite on the floor, there should be less coupling to the ground
plane.

If you had cones on the floor, too, I believe there would
be even less coupling at the lower frequencies (near 30 MHz,)
where the coupling effect is more pronounced.

For emissions testing, I believe the FCC still lets you pretend
that you are using a dipole antenna a minimum of 10 cm (?)
off the floor when determining the minimum antenna height
for vertical measurements.
(For example, lamda/4 + 0.1 m = 2.6 meters minimum height
at 30 MHz.) It's been a while since I set up a tuned dipole
for a 30 MHz measurement, but if this FCC rule is still valid,
the differences between bilog and bicon coupling effects
at 2.6 m height would be minimal.

Regards,
Dan

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> For emissions testing, the antenna should have a well balanced design when
> used over a ground plane. Perhaps the antenna you are considering is not
> well balanced. The balance issue shows up in the vertical orientation when
> there is coupling to the ground plane and is not unusual in some bicons. I
> am assuming that you will install a removable ground plan for FCC and ETSI
> emissions measurements. 
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> Greetings,
> 
> I am having a fully anechoic pre-compliance test chamber built.  By fully
> anechoic, I mean ferrite tiles will be installed on the floor as well as the
> walls and ceiling.  The inner dimensions of the chamber will be 24 feet long
> by 14 feet wide by 13 feet high.  The chamber will be used for radiated
> emissions as well as radiated immunity.  Radiated emissions testing will be
> from 30MHz to 1GHz.
> 
> I am looking at a biconilog antenna that can be used for emissions and
> immunity testing.  However; for emissions measurements, the salesman
> recommends that I use separate biconical and log-periodic antennas.  He says
> that if I use the biconilog antenna for emissions measurements, there will
> be some coupling to the ground plane when the antenna is in the vertical
> position.  However, this chamber will have ferrite on the floor, so I don't
> know if that is a valid argument.
> 
> Aside from the expense of two additional antennas, I have two conflicting
> concerns.
> 1. I would rather not have to work with more than one antenna if I don't
> have to due to down time and possible damage to an antenna.
> 2. On the flip side, I want to make sure that I have repeatable results,
> especially at the low end of the spectrum.
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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