Hi Dan and Group,
Many thanks to Dan and others who squared me away on the numbering scheme.
It is a little humbling when I consider the dozens of times I have read
through the standard.  However, on a positive note, I have found  that
nothing sets a memory like public embarrassment! ;-)  Thanks for addressing
the less than intelligent questions and take heart in the knowledge that the
lessons are learned.  I'm sure to come up with others...
Best Regards,
Dave Spencer
Oresis Communications

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Kinney (A) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 6:41 AM
To: David Spencer; 'Grant, Tania (Tania)'; Dan Kinney (A);
[email protected]
Subject: RE: FCC Part 15 exempted devices


Great point Dave.  This and paragraph 15.29 are found under Subpart A -
General.  In my book, they're on page 615 and 619.
Dan Kinney
Horner APG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Spencer [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:25 PM
> To:   'Grant, Tania (Tania)'; 'Dan Kinney (A)'; [email protected]
> Subject:      RE: FCC Part 15 exempted devices
> 
> Hi Tania, Dan, and Group,
> 
> Your quote brought up a nagging little question I had last time I was
> reading through part 15 in this section (I was looking for requirements
> relating to test equipment manufacturers...there are none) regarding the
> reference to section 15.5.  Where is it or where did it go?  My version of
> the CFR doesn't contain a 15.5, as it stops at section 15.407 in section
> E.
> Does anyone know if this is a typo or to what it refers?
> Thanks,
> Dave Spencer
> Oresis Communications
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant, Tania (Tania) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:56 PM
> To: 'Dan Kinney (A)'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: FCC Part 15 exempted devices
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> (For lack of a comma, they hung a guy.)   I actually checked to be sure
> that
> there is no comma in paragraph (b), since you could have inadvertently
> omitted it.   There is no comma.   Therefore......
> 
> ... your paragraphs b) and c) apply; however, I don't agree with your use
> of
> "only" at the end of your paragraph b).    
> 
> Thus, digital electronic control devices and power systems used
> exclusively
> by a public utility, or the same devices and power systems used
> exclusively
> in an industrial plant are exempt from Rules Part 15, except for the
> general
> conditions of operation in 15.5 and 15.29.  (Thou shalt not emit; and if
> thou emits, thou will provide units for FCC inspection, and thou will
> cease
> operation.)
> 
> 
> Thus, thou is exempt up to a point.
> 
> Tania Grant,  [email protected]
> Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group
> Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Kinney (A) [ mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: FCC Part 15 exempted devices
> 
> 
> 
> I need help with interpretation of one paragraph in FCC Part 15.  I have
> the
> 1 Oct 97 version.  Paragraph 15.103 (b) says a digital device is exempted
> from Part 15 if it is "used exclusively as an electronic control or power
> system utilized by a public utility or in an industrial plant."  One could
> interpret this several ways to include:
> 
> A digital device is exempted if it is used exclusively as:
> 1) an electronic control
> 2) an electronic control utilized by a public utility only
> 3) an electronic control utilized in an industrial plant
> 
> The first interpretation is pretty broad and would exclude a lot of
> equipment.  The third interpretation is broad but causes the manufacturer
> of
> control equipment to somehow make certain his products do not end up in
> use
> anywhere except in an industrial plant.  The second interpretation is
> narrow
> and might be the real intent of this exemption.
> 
> I would appreciate any advice on how any of you would interpret this.
> Thanks in advance.
> Dan Kinney
> Horner APG
> 
> 
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