Hi Doug,

Without knowing the details of your product, how the part is implemented,
what exactly it is exposed to or the concerns of the safety house, a
question I would ask is what exactly is the concern?  Is it possible that
the exemptions under 1950, 3rd, cl. 4.4.3.2  .....7th hyphenated item
dealing with abnormal testing per 5.4.6 to prove in  no issues could be
applied?  Keep in mind it's a D3 deviation so although it might work for
North America, you might have issues with non-North American markets.
Another pointer might be the general description regarding the use of small
parts, cumulative effects and the propagation of flame in 4.4.3.1-it is a
bit nebulous and leaves the door open to applying engineering judgement.

Good Luck!

My opinion and not that of Sanmina Canada.

Regards,
Kaz Gawrzyjal, P. Eng. 
Sr. Product Safety Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Massey, Doug C. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:37 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Desperate for help on a UL1950 interpretation



Hello All -

I desperately need some opinions on an interpretation of a particular clause
in UL1950. The background: I have an investigation underway to UL1950 of a
portable handheld computer, powered by battery and other power options, all
of which meet the requirements for inherently LPS.

Clause 4.4.3.1 states, "Components inside a FIRE ENCLOSURE........", and
continues into flammability requirements of materials and components.

Clause 4.4.5.2 addresses components not requiring a fire enclosure, and
states, "....-components in a SECONDARY CIRCUIT supplied by a limited power
source complying with 2.11, provided that...."

The product in question absolutely meets the requirements of clause 4.4.5.2,
which I interpret to mean that a fire enclosure is not required. However,
the test house performing the evaluation is applying all of the criteria of
clause 4.4.3.2. Unfortunately, I have a relatively small foam spacer inside
that does not meet the flammability class HF-2 or better as specified in
4.4.3.2. 

The test house tells me that yes, the product meets the requirements for the
exemption allowed in 4.4.5.2, but that I cannot literally interpret the
statement in 4.4.3.1 to mean that the substance of clause 4.4.3 regards only
component and material flammability ratings inside a fire enclosure.

I guess I'm a literal type guy - I can't see any other way to interpret the
standard. Can anyone shed some light on this interpretation so that I can
read between the lines and understand the real requirements? I'm not trying
to make an enclosure of gasoline-impregnated paper, and with the exception
of a small (but critical) piece of foam, everything else meets the
requirements without the exclusion allowed by 4.4.5.2.

HELP !?!?


Doug Massey
Safety Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
Norcross, GA., USA
Ph.  (770) 447-4224 x3607
FAX (770) 447-6928
e-mail: [email protected]

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