It seems odd that the agency is enforcing requirements for materials inside
a fire enclosure when no fire enclosure is required!  If this is the case,
you still may have a way out.  My version of UL 1950 third edition (June 30,
1999) states the following:

Clause 4.7.3.4 - Materials for components and other parts inside fire
enclosures

There is an exclusion 5 paragraphs down that states "The above requirement
does not apply to the following:"

The ninth dashed paragraph below then states "the following parts, provided
that they are separated from electrical parts (other than insulated wires
and cables) which under fault conditions are likely to produce a temperature
that can cause ignition, ..."  It then goes on to list "gears, cams,....and
other small parts which would contribute negligible fuel to a fire.."

I would think your small spacer fits this category by not being near
components that can heat up and cause ignition, and by being a "negligible"
source of fuel.  You may need to do some fault tests to prove this point.

These are my opinions only.

Patty Elliot
Ericsson Wireless Communications
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: Massey, Doug C. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:37 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Desperate for help on a UL1950 interpretation



Hello All -

I desperately need some opinions on an interpretation of a particular clause
in UL1950. The background: I have an investigation underway to UL1950 of a
portable handheld computer, powered by battery and other power options, all
of which meet the requirements for inherently LPS.

Clause 4.4.3.1 states, "Components inside a FIRE ENCLOSURE........", and
continues into flammability requirements of materials and components.

Clause 4.4.5.2 addresses components not requiring a fire enclosure, and
states, "....-components in a SECONDARY CIRCUIT supplied by a limited power
source complying with 2.11, provided that...."

The product in question absolutely meets the requirements of clause 4.4.5.2,
which I interpret to mean that a fire enclosure is not required. However,
the test house performing the evaluation is applying all of the criteria of
clause 4.4.3.2. Unfortunately, I have a relatively small foam spacer inside
that does not meet the flammability class HF-2 or better as specified in
4.4.3.2. 

The test house tells me that yes, the product meets the requirements for the
exemption allowed in 4.4.5.2, but that I cannot literally interpret the
statement in 4.4.3.1 to mean that the substance of clause 4.4.3 regards only
component and material flammability ratings inside a fire enclosure.

I guess I'm a literal type guy - I can't see any other way to interpret the
standard. Can anyone shed some light on this interpretation so that I can
read between the lines and understand the real requirements? I'm not trying
to make an enclosure of gasoline-impregnated paper, and with the exception
of a small (but critical) piece of foam, everything else meets the
requirements without the exclusion allowed by 4.4.5.2.

HELP !?!?


Doug Massey
Safety Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
Norcross, GA., USA
Ph.  (770) 447-4224 x3607
FAX (770) 447-6928
e-mail: [email protected]

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