Hey Jim,
It is my sincere wish to get "god" results from my test equipment.  Alas,
regardless of equipment cost, I usually wind up somewhat lower.  The 8593EM
is now on the top of my wish list. ;-)

As to the price issue, it is very conceivable that a relatively small
investment in a single feature piece of add-on equipment can yield the
equivalent performance of a unit costing magnitudes more in that single
feature area.  Sophisticated, feature rich systems, pile on the sprinkles to
justify the high price tag.  If we want or need enough of those features, we
buy the system.

There aren't too many instances where you cannot find a relatively low tech,
less expensive, way to accomplish a given test goal if you are willing to
put in the time to integrate the system yourself and understand the science
involved.  On the other hand, who has the time.  

Hope you have a sense of humor!

Dave Spencer
Compliance Engineer
Oresis Communications

P.S.  I wish the tooth fairy didn't exist...up here he's giving it away
faster than any of us can make it.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Knighten, Jim L [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:10 AM
To: Colgan, Chris; 'Emc-Pstc' (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Receivers and spectrum analysers



Chris,

I am experienced in performing pre-compliance measurements with a spectrum
analyzer and preamp.  I use a Hewlett Packard 8593EM Spectrum Analyzer and
an HP 8447D Pre-Amplifier with god results.  As mentioned by another
responder, the spectrum analyzer is designed to function as an "EMI
Analyzer," not just a spectrum analyzer and allows storing of the preamp's
gain factors to allow direct reading of the signal magnitude.

If noise floor is a problem in some band, you always have the option of
decreasing the bandwidth of the measurement to increase signal-to-noise.
This is usually very effective, in my experience.

The new Agilent EMI analyzers (digital, rather than analog) come equipped
with an internal preamp.  I hope to buy one.

Since I no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy,  I find it hard to come to
grips with statements to the effect that the addition of a $2-20K add-on to
a $20-40K spectrum analyzer yields the equivalent of a  $100-$250K receiver.
Nevertheless, you can do quite well with the spectrum analyzer.  Since you
are interested in pre-compliance, you can measure at conditions that are not
standard and gain the understanding of the product that you desire.

Good Luck,

Jim
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Colgan, Chris
[mailto:[email protected]]
                Sent:   Friday, March 24, 2000 1:34 AM
                To:     'Emc-Pstc' (E-mail)
                Subject:        Receivers and spectrum analysers


                Greetings all

                I have an Advantest spectrum analyser with a quasi peak
detector that I use
                for pre compliance work.  I am having trouble with the high
noise floor and
                I am concerned about my measurements reading low due to
overloading the
                detector (no input attenuation due to the high noise floor
etc etc).

                I have been told (mainly by sales reps) that by using a
preamplifier (cheap,
                not a problem to buy) and a preselector (expensive, could be
a problem) I
                can obtain results that are virtually equivalent to a
receiver (very
                expensive).

                Has anyone tried the analyser/preselector approach and if
so, how have you
                got on?

                Regards

                Chris Colgan
                EMC & Safety
                TAG McLaren Audio Ltd

                mailto:[email protected]

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