Dear Rene,
It sounds as if you have been offended by my comments. If this is the case I apologise for this. I did mention in my reply (without being rude). Any way, when I said on a daily basis, it was meant as a example. What it meant that they change frequently. For example if you want to know about a particular regulatory matter in USA or part of Europe, you will be able to get the appropraite answers within a couple of days and by a few e-mails or phone call. Basically very simple procedures. In the other hand if one need to get the same information from a far eastern country or Asian country, etc, it would take weeks rather than days and at the end you end up with 80% info and not 100%. The only way to get to these countries is to go through a 3rd party like your company (TUV) or UL or others. I know this as I have done it many times and I can assure you that many of our friends in this group will agree. Remember that some of these countries as one of our friend pointed out have just started to make the rules and regulations and therefore cash in on the regulatory matters. This is where the local test house makes one rule, then customs make another rule and on top of that their local government makes a different rule. Please don't be offended, I was just trying to point out the headache that we manufacturers have to go through if we want to by pass the middle man and go direct.We all know that there are individual consultants or test houses that charge a fee and handle all the procedure, but what about if one decides to go direct? That is when all the fun starts. Again it was not meant to offence any individual country or organization. Thanks Kevin --- [email protected] wrote: > > What about > > Japan, Australia&NewZealand, South Africa, > Argentina, Mexico....... > > In many Asian Countries (Taiwan, China, Korea, > Hongkong.........) rules are just > being set up. This implies that there are frequent > changes, but not on daily > basis. > > And changes are implemented according to a schedule. > Can you show me a similar > schedule for the "stock exchange"? If you can, I > will change my Job immediately. > > Rene Charton > > > > > > Kevin Newland <[email protected]> on > 03/16/2000 06:59:11 AM > > Please respond to Kevin Newland > <[email protected]> > > To: "Maxwell, Chris" <[email protected]>, "'EMC-PSTC > Internet Forum'" > <[email protected]> > cc: (bcc: Rene Charton/TUV-Twn) > Subject: Re: Russian Certification of Products > > > > > Chris, > > Just remember that with the exception of Western > European countries,USA and Canada, the rest of the > world (without being rude) have not really have a > solid rule for anything. These countries rules and > regulation changes daily (just like stock exchange) > without any notice or explanation). This is sadly > the > real life and we live in it. > > Thanks > Kevin > > --- "Maxwell, Chris" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Our sales people in Russia have started the > process > > of "Certifying" our > > equipment to sell in Russia. The two agencies > that > > they are working with > > are "Gosstandart" and the "Ministry of > > Communication". > > > > According to them, the certification will consist > of > > an inspection of all of > > our existing Compliance Documentation including > > ISO-9000 certification, EMC > > Test Data (for the products of interest), Safety > > Test Data (for the products > > of interest), Environmental Test Data including > > heat, frost, moisture, > > vibration, and blow (what is that?) along with > other > > inspections of our > > calibration equipment and methods. We are also > > being asked to pay for a > > trip to the US for 3 people from the Ministry of > > Communication and > > Gosstandart (6 people total) for 7 days each. > > > > The total is a staggering $44,000 (either cash or > > wire transfer). Note > > that all of the actions being performed for this > are > > "inspections" of > > existing documentation, not actual testing. So > in > > the end, they will > > decide to certify our products based upon existing > > documentation, testing... > > I have never experienced this before. It appears > to > > be a great deal of > > expense for not much substance. Is this typical? > > Has anybody else out > > there certified products with these agencies? > > > > By the way, we typically classify our product as > > "light industrial test and > > measurement equipment" and already have solid > > testing and documentation to > > to EN 61326-1 (EMC), EN 61010-1 (Safety) and EN > > 60825-1 (Laser Safety). > > Does this give us any kind of out? > > > > Chris Maxwell, Design Engineer > > GN Nettest Optical Division > > 109 N. 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