The great majority of the headers I have seen on this list have been good
indicators of the post content. In a perfect world, a coded header
organization system would be nice. But, we have to remember that in the real
world, a significant number of drivers are challenged simply to determine
which traffic light governs their lane.

Apologies, cause I know that those in this group are all much smarter than
average. <grin>

Ed


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maxwell, Chris [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:16 AM
> To:   'Robert Johnson'; [email protected]
> Subject:      Worldwide Compliance Alert
> 
> 
> Actually, my subject should have said "RE:  EMC and product safety split".
> 
> When this started, I vowed that I would not get involved.  I also vowed
> that
> I wouldn't eat any of the cake on the table by the engineering lab.  Now
> both vows are broken.  After I recovered from  the sugar high from the
> cake,
> I decided to throw in my opinion.    If the subject of this message were
> "RE:  EMC and product safety split", would you have deleted it?  I would.
> (I
> apologize in advance for the sarcasm.)
> 
> The question of whether we should split the EMC and safety issues was
> asked
> because people were having a hard time sorting through emails.  I also
> recognize that this task takes me some time.  However, so far, my
> experience
> has been that the information that I find is worth the emails that I have
> to
> wade through. In today's world, not too many sources are as information
> rich
> as this forum is. This forum is already saving myself and my company
> money.
> I don't have to buy standards that don't apply to me, because I can ask
> the
> people in this forum whether they apply or not. I can also get this
> information without the bias of a marketing spin being put on it.  Pure,
> unadulterated, un-spun, fat-free information, a rare and precious
> commodity.
> In my job description, EMC and safety are both included.  The
> preponderance
> of responses that I have seen agree with my viewpoint that the user-group
> is
> OK for now.  
> 
> I can understand the feelings of those who would like a split.  I wouldn't
> discourage them from persuing this.  Heck, if I ever get sick of deleting
> messages, I'll join you.  However, most of the messages that I have been
> deleting lately have "RE:  EMC and product safety split" in the subject
> line.  
> 
> The irony here is that I know enough to delete these messages just by
> reading the subject line.  In a way, this sort of proves that the system
> is
> working.
> 
> I beleive that Rich Nute has correctly and non-discrimininantly outlined
> that those who want to change the system need to get three volunteers and
> work with the IEEE to set up another mail group.  I beleive that the
> "burden
> of proof" now falls upon them.  I do not want to make them look like
> outsiders, because they are not.  We need to continually ask ourselves if
> the mail group could be improved.    We also need to be open to
> everybody's
> opinion.   Along with Rich, I thank the people that brought this subject
> up
> because it made me realize what I like about the group.  
> 
> 1. Typically, people only send emails when they have a legitimate question
> or a job opening.  
> 2. Typically, the email deals with EMC and/or product safety.
> 3.  Typically, people use a descriptive subject line when sending a
> message
> which allows me to sort quickly.
> 4. Typically, when I have had a question, the people responding have an
> insight which I have not yet been exposed to.
> 5.  Did I mention it's free!
> 6.  I have learned quite a bit just from reading other people's questions
> and answers.
> 7. I can get answers to questions without calling a test lab or paying a
> consultant's fee. 
> 8.  We all benefit by being exposed to each other's experiences.
> 
> I think that it is good email practice to have a descriptive subject line
> on
> any email that you send.   (Sorry about the misleading subject on this
> one.)
> That way, people can trash it or read it more quickly.  It has been my
> experience that people are already doing this (for the most part) without
> using any acronyms or keywords.  
> 
> I apologize for being long winded on the subject and I don't want to clog
> the system any more.  I think that we who like the system the way it is
> can
> respond by our silence.  Let me suggest that from this point forward,
> anyone
> who does not send an email on this subject is agreeing to leave the user
> group the way it is.  This leaves the channel open for those who disagree.
> I think that their viewpoint should always be welcomed.  I just don't see
> a
> bunch of support for it right now. 
> 
> Please if anyone wants to respond to me personally, use [email protected]
> and
> let the EMC-PSTC forum get back to doing what it does best.
> 
> By the way, the cake was delicious!
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Chris Maxwell, Design Engineer
> GN Nettest Optical Division
> 109 N. Genesee St.  
> Utica, NY 13502
> PH:  315-797-4449
> FAX:  315-797-8024
> EMAIL:  [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Robert Johnson [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent:       Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:00 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject:    Re: EMC and product safety split?
> > 
> > 
> > If the group is split, common and peripheral topics would have to be
> > sent to both groups. Those interested in one topic would have less to
> > sort through, but those interested in both would have to filter
> > duplicates.
> > I see no total gain but added administrative burdens.
> > 
> > Don't ask for subject codes. Too much trouble making and keeping rules.
> > Then we get into complaint chains about missing codes. It also makes
> > things confusing for newcomers.
> > Just reinforce the message we need clear titles.
> > 
> > Bob Johnson
> > 
> > 
> > 
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