If input VSWR for preamp and output VSWR for antenna are both bad, then it
seems a simple solution is to connect preamp input to antenna output and let
50 Ohm output of preamp drive cable, solving two problems at once.  Am I
missing something?

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>From: "Pommerenke, David" <davi...@ece.umr.edu>
>To: "'Ravinder Ajmani'" <ajm...@us.ibm.com>, marti...@appliedbiosystems.com
>Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>Subject: RE: Pre-amps
>Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2001, 7:49 AM
>

>
> On the amps:
>
> For emissions there are the following electrical criteria:
>
>  - Noise figure  expect about 4 dB for a broadband amp 30 MHz - 2 GHz.
>    The noise figure is often larger at the lower frequencies if the
> amplifier goes up to many GHz.
>
>  - Input SWR. This is important. Most broadband amps (especially if they go
> up to many GHz)
>    have a bad input match at low frequencies. As the log-per antennas have a
> bad mismatch too,
>    you will have multiple reflections on the cable between the antenna and
> the pre-amp.
>    This reflections will influence your measurement and cannot be corrected
> for by the antenna
>    factor. They may be as large as a few dB below 100 MHz. For that reason,
> you may be forced
>    to add a 3 dB attenuatore at the antenna. This increases your noise
> figure by 3 dB.
>
>  - Gain. Of course, you need only as much gain as is needed to overcome the
> cable loss (cable to
>    the spectrum analyzer) and the noise figure of the spectrum analyzer.
> More gain will not help
>    you.
>
> David Pommerenke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ravinder Ajmani [mailto:ajm...@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:27 PM
> To: marti...@appliedbiosystems.com
> Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: Pre-amps
>
>
>
>
> Joe,
> HP (Agilent) make good Pre-amps for different frequency ranges.  If you are
> looking for an economical solution then you may try Com Power Corp. at
> (949) 587-9800.
>
> Regards, Ravinder
> PCB Development and Design Department
> IBM Corporation
> Email: ajm...@us.ibm.com
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>                     Please respond to
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>                     MartinJP
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>
> I am having some difficulties locating manufacturers that provide preamps
> with a 20-22dB gain.
>
> What manufacturer/model do you recommend? Why?
>
> Your assistance is appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Joe Martin
> Applied Biosystems
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