Could we please get off this topic, have a nice chamomile tea or, if necessary a Librium? I see this all veering off into the realm of political correctness. Let's take it as read that we all respect each others' views (even if we don't always) and that posting to an (essentially) public and international forum may engender replies which one may not agree with or understand. You can always use emoticons if you wish to make it clear that you are joking (crying, laughing, clueless, whatever).
For the record, I have never had issue with a posting from John W. from Vic B. or EVEN from the rude persons <I really mean another word altogether, but I am being polite, and for those of you who do not understand the idea, that last bit was an example of the use of irony> who once flamed me for an over-enthusiastic response to a posting (you know who you are, and this does not apply to the polite flames). And supposedly "basic" questions are more than welcome as far as I am concerned: many other people are happy to have their deepest secret fears allayed by the answers <this is an inserted grin - that was an attempt at humour>. CONVERSELY, I find it **immensely more discourteous** to see postings from list members who do not feel that it is necessary to identify themselves beyond a first, or possibly last name. How can one (particularly a list newbie) discern the potential value, biases, etc. inherent in a post, without the organizational affiliation of the person making the post? I realize that this is sometimes not -er-accidental, either, and that irks me further. (In case any of you are wondering - I am very, very grumpy about people from supposedly courteous "cultures" right now, after being jostled, pushed, etc. in line a few too many times in the last few weeks of standards-related travel.) Cheerfully yours, Kate Kathy M. MacLean President, APREL Laboratories -EMC-RF Safety-Antenna Design/Test-SAR/MPE-SAR/Near-Field Tools-Acoustics-Wireless- 51 Spectrum Way, Nepean, Ontario K2R 1E6 (613) 820-2730 fax (613) 820-4161 cell (613) 791-3777 Web site: http://www.aprel.com - watch for our new web site coming soon (really!!) -----Original Message----- From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:41 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Mr Woodgate's response to Mr Taylor wrt test table Dear Mr. Ritenour, Mr. John Woodgate, I do agree with your statement about the "humouristic replies" often generated by Mr. Woodgate. Although I respect his level of professionalism on the subject (safety, emc), and the appropriate (and fast) way Mr Woodgate replies to questions on this forum, i think any contributor has to realize himself that people on this forum come from all cultures and level of education and have a different perspective of this list, and the people behind it. Great care should be taken not to scare away other -possible new members- from asking simple beginners and even dumb questions. And one should respect the way other members replies, may be not as to the point as he likes. The intent of creating humour in writing often is misunderstood, and members may not appreciate the humoristic sides of topics in the genre "been there seen that" If any contributor forgets to specify the units to any property of material, a simple addition would help others in the list, reluctant to ask, at the right information. I realize that his way of writing is not meant to offend anyone(not this time). Even if the contributor knows the one he replies to, and is sure about him to understand the intent, others do not and may conclude erroneously that the reply is offensive. His remarks about the way other newsgroups 'flame' contibutors, is in no way any reference to this specific list and their members. I think John, that even if you think that Mr. Taylor does not merit an apology, Mr Ritenour does ! Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing =============================================== Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ =============================================== >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:20 AM >>To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Mr Woodgate's response to Mr Taylor wrt test table >> >> >> >>Dear Mr. Woodgate, >> >>This is a sincere inquiry. >> >>Until now I have been very impressed with the good manners shown >>by all the >>respondents on this site. Even the most naive questions (and responses) >>receive polite answers, or at worst are ignored. However, the >>tone of your >>response to Mr. Taylor seems to heap ridicule on his statements and by >>implication on Mr. Taylor. >> >>I am fairly new on the emc-pstc site, and until now felt safe in >>asking the >>few questions I have submitted. By safe I mean I have not feared >>that I would >>be "flamed" as if I were an ignoramus or poser asking questions of my >>betters. Now I am not so sure about how safe I really am. Is this >>your intent? >> >> Shouldn't you apologize to Mr. Taylor (and to the site) and >>clear the air? >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Thurman J. 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