Hi,

Well here is the other side to keep it 50-50.

I have understood the requirement to be that the "O" symbol can only be used
when all power has been disconnected from the unit.  I believe that if you
used a single pole switch on a grounded neutral system, it would be OK.  Of
course, this is only OK if you can be sure that you know which will be the
neutral.  

Ned


Ned Devine
Program Manager III
Entela, Inc.
3033 Madison Ave. SE
Grand Rapids, MI  49548

616 248 9671 Phone
616 574 9752 Fax
ndev...@entela.com  e-mail




-----Original Message-----
From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:47 PM
To: Rick Linford
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: EN60950 (UL1950, IEC 60950) On off switch marking.





Rick,

My opinion based on my understanding of IEC 60950.........

Whether an on/off switch breaks one or both sides of the line, the
equipment will be either on or off respectively, as either breaks the
electron path.

It is true that breaking only one side may leave the electronics "hot"
if the plug or socket allow for the neutral to be the "open" side.  However,
the device will be off.

As I recall, the marking instructions you referenced make no mention of
whether one or both of the mains leads are opened by the switch.  Therefore,
the "I" or "O" apply only to whether the device is on or off, which results
from
breaking either or both sides of the line.

George Alspaugh
Lexmark International Inc.




"Rick Linford" <rlinford%sonicwall....@interlock.lexmark.com> on 04/27/2001
12:25:19 PM

Please respond to "Rick Linford"
<rlinford%sonicwall....@interlock.lexmark.com>

To:   emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee....@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:    (bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  EN60950 (UL1950, IEC 60950) On off switch marking.




Hi All,

When a switch opens only one leg of  the mains to control power to
equipment should it be marked with the "l" and "O"?

Background:

Three different engineers from three different NRTLs indicated it is
permitted, two even required it. A different engineer for one of the
NRTLs and two other respected individuals indicate it is prohibited. It
will be interesting if members of this list will have the same 50/50
split or if there is a correct answer.

(single phase 100 to 240 VAC, 2A, 50-60 Hz, intended to be shipped US,
Canada, EU and generally internationally)

To help, IEC 60950 (1999), section 1.7.8.3 Symbols, is shown below.

Where symbols are used on or near controls, for example switches, push
button, etc., to indicate "ON" "OFF" conditions, they shall be the line
l for "ON" and the circle O for "OFF" (60417-1-IEC-5007 and
60417-1-IEC-5008). For push-push type switches the symbol {line in side
the circle} shall be used (60417-1-IEC-5010).

It is permitted to use the symbols O and l to indicate the "OFF" and
"ON" positions of any primary or secondary  power switches, including
isolating switches.

A "STAND-BY" condition shall be indicated by the symbol {line breaking
the circle at the top} (60417-1-IEC-5009).

My bias was not included in the 50/50 statistics noted above but I
believe it is required.

Rick Linford
Regulatory Engineer
SonicWALL




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