Just a 'small' correction here.

As I'm sure most who have been through any of the UL programs will agree, it
took some work to get there!!. Therefore, I'd like to point out that KTL is
a UL CAPS Engineer laboratory and therefore manufacturers who have their
products tested/investigated with us under this scheme will get UL
authorization to apply the UL Listed or Recognized Mark. EXACTLY the same as
they would by going directly to UL, except of course we believe we offer a
faster turnaround time than UL themselves. :>).

Phillip Godfrey
Manager, Product Safety
KTL Dallas, Inc
802 N. Kealy Ave
Lewisville. TX75057-3136

email: [email protected]
Tel: (972) 436-9600
Fax: (972) 436-2667 

-----Original Message-----
From: Don House [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Praveen Rao; 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking



Perhaps you are being confused by the symbols.  The UL symbol can only be
used if your product is tested by UL not another lab.  UL1950 and CSA 22.2
are both the same requirements.  They have been "normalized" by
international agreement. 
Text can be used in place of logos if the text is in close proximity to the
logo of the LISTING laboratory.  Of course nothing can be sold in Canada
without the Canadian supplied flag labels with the certification number
imprinted.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Praveen Rao [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:36 PM
To: 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking


This is the symbol (see attached) we were advised to use by CSA for both
Canada and USA.
But no 'UL' to be mentioned anywhere.
The testing was through the CB scheme tested here in Australia.
Praveen


-----Original Message-----
From: Pham, Tac [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2001 9:00 AM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking



Courtland,

The NRTL (UL, CSA) would not like the idea that one marked the product with
the word UL or CSA because (their argument) it is misleading. In some cases,
TUV, ETL etc. can certify some products using UL/CSA standards.

Tac,
Power-One TSD


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Courtland Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:05 PM
To:     emcpost
Subject:        Product Marking


Hello group,

I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having
different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo such as UL.
This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price
possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which doesn't
use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and CAN/CSA
1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to have a
logo?

Thanks,

Courtland Thomas
Patton Electronics


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