Vitaly,
I believe you misinterpreted my statement. I was not implying that
you test to a standard and then arbitrarily place an NRTL mark on your
product. The original question was, "If we go to a NRTL and get Safety
testing performed ...<snip>...would it be possible to just put "Conforms to
UL 1950 and CAN/CSA 1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a
requirement to have a logo?" My point was that if you have the product
tested by NRTL X and do not affix the logo of NRTL X, your product is not
considered to be NRTL Listed as it will not audited at the factory. Does it
comply with the standard? - yes. Can you print on a label that it complies?
- yes. Can you tell your customers that your are NRTL Listed, no. This, in
addition to the other valuable input, validates the fact (for me, anyway)
that the NRTL mark should be affixed to the product, especially since you
just went through all that work!! My apologies if I misinterpreted the
intent of the original question.
Thx,
Joe
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gorodetsky, Vitaly [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:26 PM
To: 'Joe Finlayson'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
Joe -
It is the other way around: you can mark your product only if it's NRTL
Listed. Manufacturers are supposed to obtain Authorization to mark from an
NRTL Lab which performed safety evaluation. There's no Mutual Agreement
allowing arbitrary mark alternation: you can't use UL mark if, let's say,
you obtained Authorization from ITS (all marks were born equal but some
marks are more equal than others). Product Listing results in Follow up
Service, it is required for continuous use of the mark.
Vitaly Gorodetsky
The suitability of this information for making decision is solely with the
reader
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Finlayson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:45 PM
To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost
Subject: RE: Product Marking
My understanding of the NRTL marking is that if you don't
mark it,
it is not considered Listed. It doesn't matter if it has been
tested or
not. I believe the issue is that if the NRTL is performing a
factory audit,
they will only review marked product. Therefore, if you do not mark
it, you
can not claim NRTL Listing.
-----Original Message-----
From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:05 PM
To: emcpost
Subject: Product Marking
Hello group,
I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL
and get
Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for
example)
on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with
having
different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo
such as UL.
This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price
possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which
doesn't
use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and
CAN/CSA
1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to
have a
logo?
Thanks,
Courtland Thomas
Patton Electronics
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