Hi Chris,
The correct response to this question is: Check with your prospective
customers.  Each RBOC and CLEC has a different bent on who's tests they will
accept and there are always exceptions to the hard and fast operating
procedures proclaimed at the annual conferences.  There are many labs that
are not OSHA certified that perform NEBS tests and write reports accepted by
all the principle players.  A very good "for instance" is the Telcordia
(Belcore) lab itself, which is not an NRTL lab.  The most important part of
the whole experience is to make sure the lab you use has previous experience
writing NEBS test reports or is in very close communications with your
customers SME's in the various NEBS areas BEFORE testing begins.
 
Rule of thumb, from my perspective:  Meeting the requirements of Verizon and
SBC will take care of 95% of your prospective customers.  AT&T has a couple
more hoops, accounting for the last 5%.
 
One last thing, you should be aware that there is a separate list serv for
NEBS questions.  You can sign up on the RCIC web site.  Although many
members of the EMC-PSTC list are members of both lists, it is always a good
idea to avoid leaching bandwidth from those who have little interest in US
telephony compliance.  Let me know if you need contact information and have
a Great Day!
 
Best Regards,
Dave Spencer
Oresis Communications
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McInturff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:54 AM
To: 'John Juhasz'; '[email protected]'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Testfacilities GR-1089-Core


    As I posted earlier, in theory any OSHA certified lab should qualify as
a NRTL. I find it interesting that they don't even have to have NEBS items
listed in their accreditation standards just be a OSHA NRTL. I don't have
the exact web address but you can check this who has what on the WEB. The
last time I did it I believe it was pretty straight forward with a search
reference to OSHA rather than some horrible governmental acryonym.
    There is another method you can consider, if you have a NRTL oversee the
test the environmental lab itself doesn't necessarily have to be an OSHA
NRTL. Choose with care and shop around.
    At the last symposium there was some generally reluctant acceptance of
non-NRTL's because of a recent crunch in available time at the labs, but
this would be my personnal last resort.
    There are more labs out there than one might first suspect, but if
you're doing this for the first time you want somebody with experience
giving you a solid hand.
    Gary

[Gary McInturff]  -----Original Message-----
From: John Juhasz [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:15 AM
To: '[email protected]'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Testfacilities GR-1089-Core



If I may add to that . . . 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my past NEBS experience (prior to 1998) 
taught me that you can't just use any lab 
in the US either (I don't know if that's changed since 1998). 
The RBOCs are fussy in this regard. 
In addition to Telcordia themselves, there are a couple of large ones that
advertise 
that their NEBS data is accepted by the RBOCs . . . 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia, NY 


-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:09 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Testfacilities GR-1089-Core 





Chris, 

>From what has been said during the NEBS 2000 Conference held 
in Baltimore at the beginning of October.  The only report 
acceptable to the RBOCs are those issued by a Test House located 
in the United States. 

Thus if your intended market is the United States, which I think 
is the cases, than you will have to test in a US based facility. 


DISCLAIMER:  The above opinion is mine and does not necessarily 
             reflects that of my employer. 

Daniel Sicard 
Compliance Engineer / Ingénieur Certification 
Marconi Communications - Optical Network Corp 
Tel: 514-685-1737 Ext. 4631  Fax: 514-822-4077 
E-mail: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Web: http://www.marconi.com <http://www.marconi.com>  



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