If I may interject my opinion here . . . 

On only two occassions have I had to provide a report to back-up my DoC.
The laboratory has their accreditations listed at the bottom of the cover
page. I did not receive any further queries about the data or the lab
that performed it. 

Was it because the lab was accredited? I don't know for sure. But I do know
that I have plenty of work to do without having to worry about trying to
convince someone (whether their queries are justified or not) that the
data was generated in a properly NSA'd site buy competent indiviuals.
If all it takes to prevent that is using an 'accredited' lab, then so be it.
(If a company goes through the expense of creating their own site, it
may be worth to at least have some 'minimal' - if that exists, amount
of accreditation).

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary McInturff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:19 AM
To: 'Pettit, Ghery'; '[email protected]'; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: RE: Complications of self-declaration without an independent
test lab being involved



Ghery,
        Personal opinion time. 
        You may want to re-think the Europe thing. Even if you are correct
that you don't currently need them for Europe, accredited labs are really
the underpinnings for global acceptance of EMC data (Okay - not Korea but
don't get me started on them for the moment, besides I believe the FCC
frowns on the language that would be necessary). The concept is that if
differing countries can agree on how  and to what criteria labs are
accredited, and by such accreditation provide some reasonable assurance that
their site, equipment, personnel, and process will product accurate data we
can get MRA's signed that will allow "one stop" testing, if you will.
        The benefits of an accredited lab seem to be a little more obvious
in the US, because we no longer have to wait six weeks after test for review
of the data and equipment grant, but I would contend that the long term
benefit is much greater.
        Besides I have never seen a cost impact on using an accredited lab,
and knowing that my test lab reads this forum, I had better not see one
(Morning, Paul and Jim), so it just doesn't seem prudent to me not to use an
accredited lab.
        Heck, accreditation of a lab also does some of your homework for you
in giving you a back-door quality audit of the facilities you intend to use,
because these labs have to first prove their competency but they have to be
audited every other year. So I guess I am confused why you would chose not
to use accredited labs.
        Take Care
        Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:44 PM
To: '[email protected]'; Pettit, Ghery; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: RE: Complications of self-declaration without an independent
test lab being involved



No argument there, Derek.  I was looking at a wider picture which includes
personal computers under the FCC Rules.  In that case, for self declaration,
an accredited laboratory is required.  For the EMC Directive in Europe, no
accreditation is required.

Ghery Pettit


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Complications of self-declaration without an independent
test lab being involved


Ghery,

in your reply it reads as though an accredited lab is required. I want to 
make sure it is clear that for compliance with the EMC Directive it IS NOT 
the case.

Use of an accredited lab may make life easier, but, I reiterate, it is not 
required.

Best regards,

Derek Walton


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