Hello All, Just one clarification regarding update of South Korea's APEC TEL MRA Annex I - this recent update does now allow for Canadian labs to be accredited with full scope of the Korean requirements. This bilateral agreement has been in place between Canada and Korea for several years, by virtue of the Korean/Canadian MRA signed in the early 90's. However, the initial agreement allowed for only one lab in either country to enter into a "confidence" building period. The newly updated Annex and procedures now allows for any accredited Canadian lab to add the Korean requirements to their scope, including immunity (which had been caught in the rollover from "confidence" building to full rollout in accordance with APEC TEL).
In keeping with the APEC TEL MRA procedures, Korea has updated Annex I and their full list of technical regulations (relating to Telecom, EMC and Wireless approvals). However, this does not automatically translate into open acceptance of reports from any country. These agreements (such as the one that exists between Canada and Korea) must be in place, before Phase I can be fully implemented. Best Regards, Chun Kim www.approvalspecialists.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Benoit Nadeau To: Fred Borda ; Barbara Judge Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: RE: CNS Standards Bonjour de Montreal, Just a few comment about BSMI, MRAs and testing. The APEC TEL MRA was sign by the DGT in Taiwan, thus allowing foreign testing lab to the EMC on telecom equipment only. The extension, in USA, of this MRA to Information Technology Equipment was negotiated separately by the FCC (actually by the means of an exchange of letters between trade office in Washington and Taipei for political reasons). The terms used in those letters states that "Designated US based lab data would be recognized by BSMI for tests performed on US products". In fact, Us tests labs can only test US products. This situation made me test in Taiwan for the last two years, waiting for the Taiwan Foreign affairs to sign the same type of agreement with Canada. On the other hand, South-Korea was just (see attachment) update their Annex 1 of the APEC Tel MRA, including all EMI and EMS test. So, accredited tests labs, even American ones, if they have their scope modified to include the South-Korean requirements, could be designated. I just received mine a few days ago. Best regards, ====================================================== Benoît Nadeau, ing., M.ing. (P.Eng., M.Eng) Gérant du Groupe Conformité (Conformity Group Manager) Matrox ====================================================== 1055, boul St-Régis Dorval (Québec) Canada H9P 2T4 Tel : (514) 822-6000 (2475) Fax : (514) 822-6275 mailto:bnad...@matrox.com http://www.matrox.com ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Fred Borda Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 17:01 To: Barbara Judge Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CNS Standards Hi Barbara, Yes, I believe what we have is an official translation of CNS13438. I'm sure it has the usual disclaimers on it warning that in the event of a conflict between the original and the translation, the original Chinese prevails, though. Thanks for your post detailing the MRAs. I think it helps make some sense out of it for those who aren't following it regularly. About the "in-country testing required" note on our web site, that's actually intended to refer to telecom testing. BSMI has recognized EMC test reports from designated labs even before the APEC TEL MRA, and DGT adopted this practice when they began evaluating EMC compliance on telecom equipment two years ago. On the telecom front, Taiwan has been ready for some time to move forward with the US on Phase I and more recently Phase II of the MRA. It's just a matter of designating labs outside of Taiwan. As far as I know, the only lab designated for any standard besides EMC is CCS. For wire line telecom, until there are labs designated outside of Taiwan to test to the standard that applies to a product, the practical advice is that it's got to be tested (for telecom) in-country. Sorry to cause confusion. -Fred Borda Compliance International www.typeapproval.com At PM 12:50 04/22/02 -0700, Barbara Judge wrote: >Hi Fred, > >Is that an official translation of CNS 13438? By the way in visiting your >website I notice that you stipulate that "In-country testing is required for >most equipment" Under the APEC Mutual Recognition Arrangement, both Taiwan >and the US being signatories, it is not required that testing be conducted >in Taiwan. Testing may be conducted by a Conformity Assessment Body (CAB), >in the U.S., that has been Nominated by NIST and confirmed by DGT. We are >still in Phase 1 of the Arrangement so submission to DGT is still required. >Once we move to Phase 2 the confirmed CABs under Phase 2 should be capable >of certifying products for DGT. I'd be happy to discuss our capability with >you off-line. > >Best Regards, >Barbara >_______________________________________ >Barbara L. Judge >Vice President >Compliance Certification Services >Designated TCB and CAB >561F Monterey Road >Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >408-463-0885 ext.104 >Fax: 408-463-0888 >e-mail: bju...@ccsemc.com >http://www.ccsemc.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fred Borda [mailto:fbo...@typeapproval.com] >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:22 AM >To: rehel...@mmm.com >Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: CNS Standards > > > >Hello Bob, > >Compliance International can provide the CNS 13438 standard for you. Please >contact me off-list for details. > >Best regards, > >-Fred Borda >Compliance International >www.typeapproval.com > > > >At PM 12:05 04/22/02 -0500, rehel...@mmm.com wrote: > > >Can anyone provide a source to purchase Taiwan EMC standards (CNS) in > >English? > > > >Thank you, > >Bob Heller > >3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 > >St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 > >Tel: 651- 778-6336 > >Fax: 651-778-6252 > > > > > >------------------------------------------- > >This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > >Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > >Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > > >To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > majord...@ieee.org > >with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > > > >For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > > >All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > >---- >Fred Borda >Director >Marketing & Business Development >Compliance International >www.typeapproval.com >-------------------------------------------------- >The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval >across the Asia-Pacific region >-------------------------------------------------- >4713 First Street, Suite 280 >Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA >Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) >Fax +1.925.417.5574 >Mobile +1.650.740.5762 >fbo...@typeapproval.com > > > >------------------------------------------- >This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety >Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > >Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > >To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org >with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > >For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > >All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > >------------------------------------------- >This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety >Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > >Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > >To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org >with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > >For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > >All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ---- Fred Borda Director Marketing & Business Development Compliance International www.typeapproval.com -------------------------------------------------- The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval across the Asia-Pacific region -------------------------------------------------- 4713 First Street, Suite 280 Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA Tel +1.925.417.5571 (direct) Fax +1.925.417.5574 Mobile +1.650.740.5762 fbo...@typeapproval.com ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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