dear John,

If I would not advocate testing I would be a
bad entrepreneur/ If I would recommend clearly
unnecessary testing I would loose customers.

The same is true for dentists curing your dents.
Did YOU actually check every hole in your teeth
really existed ? Or did you never go to the
dentist because no authority demands it. ;<))

It is the difference between good and bad test houses
to help selecting test suites for unknowing customers 
(!??!) that other otherwise choose for
short time gains and long time losses.

And, as you should know, testing costs are important
for very small companies only. Costs for EMC serial production
etc. are neglect able  if designed in, from the start.
The gain from compliant equipment in terms of quality,
product life time and need for service can easily
be much higher then all testing suites I can imagine.

And there is much more to test than only EMC !

Regards,
 
Gert Gremmen, (Ing)

ce-test, qualified testing
 
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
>>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:29 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6
>>
>>
>>
>>I read in !emc-pstc that CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and
>>more... <[email protected]> wrote (in <ABEJKCKDFONELAIPOFHNMEIGEMAA.cetes
>>[email protected]>) about 'EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6', on Sun, 13 Jan 2002:
>>
>>>As a member of the Dutch Committee EMC 2 I emphasize
>>>these topics at every occurrence of revision or
>>>amendment of these standards.
>>>
>>
>>Good, but you are no doubt aware that many complain but few take the
>>effective action that you do.
>>
>>>However, using the NB route 
>>
>>NB route?
>>
>>>a due diligence approach
>>>can be made, keeping both our customers and the
>>>spectrum authorities happy.
>>
>>You will also, I feel sure, be aware of the difficulties here. How do
>>you know how far beyond the requirements of the standards you need to
>>go, to make the spectrum-management authorities happy, but not
>>delirious, at your customer's expense? How can your customer reconcile
>>your recommendations for 'going the extra kilometre' with the fact that
>>you gain financially if your recommendation is accepted? 
>>
>>These matters are, of course, only of concern to conscientious test-
>>house managers like yourself. Less responsible managers don't worry
>>about them at all.
>>
>>>After all, if the milking machine was tested using the
>>>clamp only, and it CAUSES interference, the authorities
>>>DO have all rights to demand additional measures to be taken.
>>
>>Yes, IF it causes interference. I wonder how likely that is.
>>
>>>As ce-test works in the interest of our customers we
>>>decide with them that verification of those possible
>>>interference must be taken into account.
>>
>>It is not in *your* interest to carry out extra testing? 
>>>
>>>That's in accordance with the philosophy of the EMC-directive
>>>also: requiring one to comply with the essential requirements,
>>>allowing to use harmonized standards as a convenient way
>>>to obtain the presumption of compliance only.
>>
>>Yes, many test-houses that advocate extra testing use the same argument. 
>>-- 
>>Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. 
>>http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk 
>>After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. 
>>
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