Brian,
There are a couple of things that you might try:

1) Modify your PCB outline to rout a channel between the contacts and coil. 
This 
would have to be cut completely through the PCB board, so any internal planes 
would need to have clearance added first. I have seen this done successfully 
with 
opto-isolators that did not meet creepage spacings.

2) Use a high-voltage epoxy compound to add insulation around the relay pins. 
This 
reduces the potential at the PCB surface. It would have to be added post-solder.

Another less pleasant option is to add extension leads to the relay, insulate 
with high-
voltage epoxy, and then bend the exposed portion of the leads to match the PCB 
holes which would have the correct spacing. The main advantage over method 2 is 
the ease of replacing the relay (no epoxy on the PCB).

I would ask the relay vendors for advice. You cannot be the first customer to 
have 
encountered this issue.

Scott Lacey

On 10 Dec 2002 at 15:33, [email protected] wrote:

> 
> Happy Holidays Group,
> 
> Let me set the scene for you:   
> 
> We have a piece of laboratory equipment that has a 10,000 volt low
> current power supply that puts a high potential onto a small metal
> sample as it is being tested.  When the operator opens a door to
> remove the sample we have to turn off the high voltage to protect the
> operator.
> 
> We have been looking for a High Voltage Relay to do the job without
> luck.  We have found several that are rated for 10,000 volts, but the
> creepage and clearance spacing between the pins don't seem to match
> what the IEC61010-1:2001 standard says.
> 
> If I am reading the standard correctly, the creepage is the big
> problem.  Table 7 calls for a spacing of 40mm on pc cards pollution
> degree 1.  This seems like a lot.  The clearance would be 30.3mm  - 
> 31.6mm according to Table 5.  We have one relay that is rated 10,000
> volts, but it only has 23mm between the contact and the coil pins. 
> How can this be?  Am I looking at something wrong here?  
> 
> I can't find any high voltage relays with any kind of agency
> approvals.  
> 
> 1. Am I figuring out the creepage distance correctly or am I missing
> something?
> 
> 2. If I do have to meet the spacings listed above, does anyone know of
> a good source for a compliant relay?
> 
> 3.  Anyone have tips and suggestions how to minimize spacings in high
> voltage circuits?
> 
> Thanks to all.
> Brian Kunde
> LECO Corp.
> 
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