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"Pettit, Ghery" wrote:

> David,
>
> Ideally an OATS should have no ambient signals within 6 dB of the lowest
> limit that you intend to use.  Now, after everyone has had their laugh and
> picked themselves up off the floor, let's look at the practical aspects.
>
> There are very few OATS facilities in the world that meet the requirement
> from DC to daylight (well, maybe we don't have to go that far, but you get
> the idea).  I recall one that was built in an underground salt mine in
> England and there have been some in very remote locations in the US, but
> that's about it.  Every other OATS that I know of has a few or more signals
> over the limit, some way over the limit.
>
> Factors to consider in making your decision would be -
>
> 1.  How much of the spectrum of interest is occupied by ambient signals?  In
> the past, we've been able to live with television transmitters as the only
> real serious signals were the video and audio carriers.  The actual picture
> information was much lower in amplitude and the carriers seldom shared a
> frequency with an emission from a computer.  This will (and is) change with
> the advent of digital TV.  Spectrum utilization is much more efficient.
> Good for the spectrum planners.  Bad for neighboring EMC labs.
>
> 2.  How strong are the ambient signals?  Are they strong enough to drive
> your pre-amplifier into gain compression or worse?  You'll need filters to
> fix this.
>
> 3.  Do ambient signals sit at frequencies you expect to measure on a routine
> basis?
>
> This should give you a general idea of things to worry about.  Also, keep in
> mind that typically VHF/UHF ambient signals are stronger higher off the
> ground.  Roof top OATS facilities will likely see higher ambient signal
> amplitudes than ground level facilities in the same area.
>
> Ambient signals in a metropolitan area are one of the strongest arguments
> for RF semi-anechoic chambers that I can think of.  You might price out a
> chamber as part of the study.  I've heard that the chamber vendors are
> hungry for business and have really sharpened their pencils as of late.
>
> Good luck with whatever you build and have fun.  I've enjoyed the process of
> building labs each time I've been fortunate enough to do it.
>
> Ghery Pettit, NCE
> Intel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gelfand, David [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Ambient noise limits for OATS?
>
> Hello all,
>
> We are being asked to evaluate ambient noise for a possible rooftop OATS.
> Are there any published limits to ambient noise for an OATS location?
>
> Thank you,
>
> David.
>
> David Gelfand
> Regulatory Approvals
> Kontron Canada
>
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