I do not know, the US Woman's team currently hold the soccer world cup
and the Men's team did pretty well in this years World Cup.

>From memory sometime in the 1930's the Men's US team actually held the
World Cup. 

Andrew Carson - Senior Compliance Engineer, Xyratex, UK

Phone: +44 (0)23 9249 6855 Fax: +44 (0)23 9249 6014

-----Original Message-----
From: david.gra...@realcompliance.com
[mailto:david.gra...@realcompliance.com] 
Sent: 01 November 2002 09:19
To: EMC pstc
Subject: RE: CE marking/testing of military equipment


A good point John,
And many facts - including that derivatives of baseball (softball,
rounders)
are played recreationally in Europe - should remind us that we share a
common heritage. As such our rivalry is (and should remain) more akin to
that of siblings than that of adversaries.
So, the REAL real question is: when are you going to learn to play
'soccer'
competently?

Dave Graham,

RCC Ltd
37 High Street, Manea
March, Cambs, UK
PE15 0JD
T: 01354 688310
F: 0870 1319036
M: 07764 199768




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Shinn
Sent: 01 November 2002 00:10
To: 'John Allen'; plaw...@west.net; 'EMC-PSTC'
Subject: RE: CE marking/testing of military equipment



John:
You have made some very valid points.  The "World Series"
is a North American only game, and of course there is the
American Football.  Actually, somewhere in the distant
past, the game was closer to Rugby and was actually
kicked much more often than it is now.  Someone figured
out that it could be thrown (a pass) with more accuracy
and the game has not been the same since.

Lists / groups like this, with it's many different cultures,
words, and common problems and solutions, have become a
a means for us to communicate and understand each other.
We see each other as different, can lightly enjoy some of
the humor regarding some of these differences, and
learn from the exchange.

So, the real question is: When are you going to get
a baseball team together and start playing for a slot
in the World Series?

Best regards,

John Shinn



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Allen
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:32 PM
To: plaw...@west.net; EMC-PSTC
Subject: Re: CE marking/testing of military equipment



Hi Folks

Sorry - it's me again.!

'Her Majesty's Stationery Office' (HMSO" is NOT the "goverment standards
group" - it is the official government REGULATIONS publiishing site and
is
just like the Government Printing Office (at least, I think that is what
it
is called) in Washington etc.

Also, I think you will find that many other countries that are not
republics
(God Forbid that should happen to the UK! - we already almost have
"President" Tony Blair, and that is bad enough!) have "odd" names for
some
of their national institutions and organisations. Therefore I think I
could
make a few derogatory remarks about some US names and traditions - like
calling a baseball or American "football" [???!!!! - the ball is hardly
ever
kicked by anone's foot!] series, the "World Series" when the game in
question is only played in the USA and a very few other countries!!!!) -
so
let's leave that type of  "funny remark" for another time and place.

Regards

John Allen
Technical Consultant
Electromagnetics, Safety and Reliability Group
ERA Technology Ltd
Cleeve Rd
Leatherhead
Surrey KT22 7SA
Tel: +44 (0) 1372-367025 (Direct)
+44 (0) 1372-367000 (Switchboard)
Fax: +44 (0) 1372-367102 (Fax)
(but sent from my home email address!)

----- Original Message -----
From: <plaw...@west.net>
To: "EMC-PSTC" <emc-p...@ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: CE marking/testing of military equipment



Hi Gert:

I made the comment about the UK based on the following information:
http://www.emctla.org/Tech%20Notes/technical_guidance_note_33.htm

2) I found the standard referred to at:
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1992/Uksi_19922372_en_1.htm
See section 20.

PS: I love the Brits - who else would title the government standards
group
'Her
Majesty's Stationery Office'!


On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:48:18 +0100, "Gert Gremmen" <g.grem...@cetest.nl>
wrote:
>There is no ground to beieve that military equiment is to be excluded
>in any country in Europe. This is definitely not the case in the
>Netherlands.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gert Gremmen
>ce-test, qualified testing
>Rotterdam, The Netherlands
>
>http://www.ce-test.nl
>
>
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>Sent: woensdag 30 oktober 2002 18:49
>To: EMC-PSTC
>Subject: CE marking/testing of military equipment
>
>
>
>I have a customer asking for CISPR 22 test results on a commercial
power
>supply
>intended for use in military equipment in Europe.
>
>I've heard the UK excludes military equipment from CE marking.  Do
other
>countries also exclude military equipment from the EMC Directive?
>
>If CISPR standards are not used for European military equipment, would
>MIL-STD-461 be used?
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