John Woodgate wrote:  "But what advice to you give about the circumstances
under which the
system may be switched off? The building must surely be substantially
unoccupied, so that lives are not at risk. But there may be other
requirements as well; the insurers wouldn't like the building to burn
down even if there were no people in it.."

John makes very good points.  You must balance dual objectives of protecting
lives/property and preventing false alarms (hollering 'wolf').
1) If mains is disabled, the Control Panel reports a "power loss" fault to
the Central Station which investigates and/or notifies authorities.  This is
not recommended: fire and police departments do not appreciate false alarms;
some even charge fines.
2) An authorized user code is needed to disarm via keypad console; the
Central Station will be alerted to the status change but will probably not
investigate unless other faults are sent.  Disarming the fire detection for
maintenance (e.g. replace batteries, add or replace sensors) requires
maintenance-level access.  This puts the building at risk, but down time is
presumably short, and the maintenance person is likely on site in case of
fire.
3) If the entire system is wiped out (explosion, cutting telco, etc.) the
Central Station automatically supervises the site on a regular basis and
detects missing communicating devices.  The Central Station can investigate
the fault and/or notify authorities.

The extent of protection depends on system installation, programming and the
Central Station service agreement.  Proposed functionality levels are given
in prEN50131-n and prEN30133-n.  Local requirements may apply as well.

David Sterner
Alarm Device Manufacturing Co. 
ADEMCO Group, Syosset NY

-----Original Message-----
From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Temporarily disabling a fire fighting system



I read in !emc-pstc that [email protected] wrote (in <2DF7C54A75B
[email protected]>) about 'Temporarily
disabling a fire fighting system', on Tue, 19 Mar 2002:
>Our Installation Instructions for Fire/Burglary Alarm Control Panels
specify
>permanent wiring to the mains for security reasons.  However, a double-pole
>circuit breaker on the branch circuit supplying the control panel is
>recommended to satisfy the LVD.
>
>In the US-Canada we have optional radio- and cellular links so the panel
>with aux. battery reports faults even if mains and telephone are severed by
>intruders.
>
>To temporarily disable the system it is best to enter the proper commands
on
>a keypad console.

But what advice to you give about the circumstances under which the
system may be switched off? The building must surely be substantially
unoccupied, so that lives are not at risk. But there may be other
requirements as well; the insurers wouldn't like the building to burn
down even if there were no people in it..
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk

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