>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:59 AM
>To: EMC-PSTC
>Subject: Re: Symbols vs. text - was EN61010-1, Symbol 14
>
>
>
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:28:19 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rich Nute [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:49 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: Symbols vs. text - was EN61010-1, Symbol 14
>>>
>>>Hi Richard:
>>>
>>>>   You said "We in the product safety industry must be very 
>>>careful that we use
>>>>   symbols in strict accordance with their definitions".

SNIP

>>Allow me a couple of observations on safety, from my 
>viewpoint as a consumer
>>rather than a safety specialist.
>>
>>I find the universal alert symbol (the exclamation point 
>within a triangle)
>>to be rather useless at best and even distractive. It's the 
>equivalent to
>>shouting "Hey!", with no hint of what the true danger is. 
>Sure, it puts you
>>on guard, but while you are looking for the sharp edge to 
>avoid, do you
>>instead get burned from a hot surface?  I would much rather 
>have a specific
>>hazard depicted so I know right away what the hazard is.
>>
>>Further, I think symbols should have a hierarchy of warning. 
>There's only a
>>few ways that the human body reacts to nasty outside stimuli 
>(i.e., you
>>bleed, burn, freeze, have pieces fall off). The top-level 
>safety symbol
>>should express the major danger category. Then, for people 
>who haven't yet
>>fled the area, you can have all kinds of very graphic 
>depictions of trauma
>>(superheated radioactive acidic steam).

SNIP

>>Regards,
>>Ed Price
>>[email protected]
>
>Hi Ed (and group):
>
>Maybe these labels are what you have in mind? I think the top half of
>the page are ISO symbols.
>Are they too 'busy'? Would they get the message across to the majority
>of product users?
>
>http://www.bay-labels.com/safety_symbols.htm
>
>Pat
>
>-------------------------------------------

Pat:


Yes, those labels at http://www.bay-labels.com/safety_symbols.htm are a good
example.

#1 just shouts at you, but doesn't tell you anything. Your reaction is "Huh!
What, where, slippery floor or high voltage?"

#2, #11, #13 & #18 are really good specific hazard symbols; to me, they
clearly define an immediate threat.

I wish I could say that #7 & #25 were good symbols, but I understand them by
training only. #7 might mean "bright light" and #25 might mean "no bare
hands" to someone else.

#31, #32 & #33 are all nice symbols, but the hazard is quite similar. It's
nice to be specific, but do you really care if the symbol differentiates a
cog wheel from a pulley from a gear?

#5 almost looks like a bullet hole at first.

Finally, #3 is my choice for a truly improper warning symbol, and should not
be included with any set of hazard symbols. A fuse advisory, of all things!
Honestly, without the text, did anyone guess this one?

CAUTION: My personal impressions only <g>.


Regards,

Ed


Ed Price
[email protected]
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Systems
San Diego, CA  USA
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