I opened up the one e-mail I had not deleted that looked like it might 
have a virus and had gone through the IEEE servers.  What I found was 
that the IEEE server had removed the virus from the e-mail. It did 
forward the e-mail on to the list, however it was virus free. 

All of the e-mail sent to the emc-pstc list goes through the IEEE virus 
scans, before going to the list. In fact if you have a IEEE alias it goes
through the same virus scan (they now have a spam filter you can adjust on
your alias account). I have dealt enough with the admins at the IEEE to 
know how they are setup. And I consider it to be first class setup, but 
no system is ever perfect in a world of constantly new viruses. 

The IEEE uses the same anti virus software as we do on our facilities
outgoing
UNIX based e-mail server. The software automatically updates once an hour.
As it runs on a UNIX system, it does not have any of the typical issues
that one of the other operating systems might have. The IEEE uses only UNIX
servers 
for all of the e-mail lists and aliases. The software they use sends a
warning 
to their admins on the status of all updates.  So if something goes wrong
with 
the updates the admin knows about it. My logs show our server received new
data 
files late last night for 48 new viruses. The vendor they/we use is one of
the 
fastest at updating the files. In fact my PC's virus files (a different
vendor) 
are typically updated 4 to 6 hours behind our UNIX server. The only issue is
that
there is always a period of time when a virus first shows up that none of
the
scanners have data files. Someone has to get the virus and forward it to the
anti virus companies, then the anti virus companies update their data files.

Until that happens there is no protection. In fact some of the more recent 
viruses make sure not to send viruses to anyone at any of the anti virus
companies 
or even any admin accounts to help slow down their detection. As our list is
a
international list we will be more susceptible to early viruses than other
lists might be.

We also have the file filters on the emc-pstc list turned down so only small
files 
can go through (less than 100K). Any virus with any size to it can not go
to the emc-pstc list as a result. That should also help prevent viruses
going to 
the emc-pstc list. We also ask that no one send files through the emc-pstc 
list server and use our website to post such files.  For that reason you 
should never open an e-mail that has an attachment that appears to have 
come through the list. As the IEEE server cleans the file before it hits our
limit filter, a cleaned virus free message makes it through.  The actual
virus would 
not have passed the size limit restrictions.

If you got a virus it more than likely did not go through the IEEE servers
or it was
before the virus files were updated. The virus more than likely used a self
generated 
"reply to" address to make it look like it is from someone it is not really
from. Most 
of the new viruses do this so you can not tell who the infected person is to
call 
them and tell them they are infected. Take a look at the headers (without
opening 
the files) and you will find they did not go through the IEEE servers. 

Please if you do have virus issues with the list, please just email the
admins 
and we will address it with the IEEE. You should always e-mail all of us in
case 
one of us is on the road. We would like to keep the list on topic and
viruses 
are not on topic.

Jim


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