Here is one possible "market driven" scenario: Power Tool - sold by Home Depot, etc. = Home Depot requires certification on everything electrical they sell = Tool mfg. gets certification for battery operated tool so they can sell via Home Depot.
Cell Phone - sold by Cell phone carriers and small cell phone distributors - if they care, all they probably care about is the charger being certified. In some cases, it may be better to ask the buyer what they require. Regards, Bill Bisenius, N.C.E. E.D.& D. bi...@productsafet.com www.productsafeT.com 919-469-9434 From: Barker, Neil [mailto:neil.bar...@e2v.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:35 AM To: 'Jim Bacher'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL Approval in different States I'm afraid that I don't have a definitive answer, and look forward to somebody else posting one. However, my one observation is that the power tool may be used in the workplace and is therefore subject to the jurisdiction of OSHA, whereas your phone would not generally be classified as equipment for use in the workplace. I suspect that both adapters/chargers are NRTL'd because they are mains powered, which is probably covered by both OSHA and the NEC. I have to admit that we play safe and have a battery-powered thermal imaging camera for use by fire-fighters NRTL'd on the basis that it is used in the workplace, and is also frequently supplied to public authorities who are risk averse and inclined to want to be able to 'tick the box' when procuring equipment for use by public employees. Best regards, Neil R. Barker C.Eng. MIEE FSEE MIEEE Manager Compliance Engineering e2v technologies (uk) ltd 106 Waterhouse Lane Chelmsford Essex CM1 2QU UK Tel: +44 (0)1245 453616 Fax: +44 (0)1245 453410 e-mail: neil.bar...@e2v.com Web: http://www.e2v.com From: Jim Bacher [mailto:jim.bac...@paxar.com] Sent: 18 May 2005 13:22 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: UL Approval in different States Does any one know the current status of how battery operated products are affected by the NRTL requirements? I did notice a power tool I bought lately has a NRTL mark on it, but my cell phone does not. In both cases the power adapters/chargers are NRTL'd. At one time I understood that at least one state required battery based products to be NRTL'd, but it must not be enforced. Jim Jim Bacher Senior Engineer Paxar Americas, Inc. 170 Monarch Lane Miamisburg, Ohio 45342 Voice: 937-865-2020 Fax: 937-865-2048 email: jim.bac...@paxar.com This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
