Jeff I agree with Chris in that we accept D of C's for other directives without insisting on seeing every report for every item. However I also agree with you that the question arises "how do they know its compliant if they cant give me the data that shows it?". I have found that some electronic component manufacturers do provide this data but many "ancillary component" (e.g. crimp terminals, DIN rails etc) manufacturers do not. Some of our customers like to see the chemical composition of our products.
If you find a database which people can use easily then please let me know - the only way I have been able to get RoHS data is by contacting individual suppliers and giving them a list of parts I would like data on. Ian Gordon From: James, Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 September 2005 10:23 To: jeff collins; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: RoHS: Proof of Supplier Component Compliance Have you 100% self test for every other operation or claim that vendors make for their products on existing D of C's - I doubt it. So why get paranoid now? Accepting D of C's is permissible but ought if practicable be backed up by spot testing. Getting details of the composition is not a requirement of RoHS and would add significant burden to do so. Why push for more than is required - if too many people push then it will become a defacto requirement and then a mandatory requirement. Do you take your car home after a smog check and then take it to a lab to have it checked again or do you accept the smog station certificate? Regards, Chris ____________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jeff collins Sent: 08 September 2005 09:55 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RoHS: Proof of Supplier Component Compliance Group, I am finding several component suppliers ( many who are major mfr's ) that will issue a COC or letter of conformity to RoHS but with no Evidence of compliance or even a breakdown of the weights or percentages of the hazardous substances. Is anyone else having this issue? This puts us in a position where we either have to: * Blindly accept their COC/Letter of conformance and HOPE they really are compliant and do not exceed the hazardous threshold limits. * Have their components tested. ( An expensive option ) * Change suppliers to one that can provide this info ( A very very painful and expensive option at this point ) So I know this is a rhetorical question but how can they claim compliance for their components and not know the Mass and % of Content of the banned substances? Thanks, Jeff Collins *********************************************************************** The information contained in this email and any attachments may be confidential and is provided solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, or use of this e-mail, its attachments or any information contained therein is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments. No responsibility is accepted for any virus or defect that might arise from opening this e-mail or attachments, whether or not it has been checked by anti-virus software. This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas [email protected] Mike Cantwell [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: [email protected] Jim Bacher: [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
