Hi, Camille.

> From: Camille Good
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:07 PM
>
> Actually, I think you are outside of Class 2 limits
> with 24 Vac 5 A, as the limits of Class 2 are maximum
> 30 Vac / 42.4 Vdc

Although you are correct about Reginald's needs exceeding
Class 2 limits for wet locations (his original post
indicates as much), I would like to point out that Class 2
limits are not quite as described.  For wet environments,
the voltage limits are 21.2 Vpk and 30 Vdc.


Reginald -

While your assessment is generally correct, you're likely to
have a *very* difficult time finding a Class 3 supply or
transformer with the ratings you mention, since Class 3
current limits are at 150/Voc, and assuming a near 30 Voc
>from a 24 Vac transformer/supply, the maximum output current
is required to be 5 A or less.  That's a tough nut to crack.


Please pardon my relating a memory:

I have met one character, who in about 1987 worked for
Honeywell (and I at UL, testing, among other things, Class 2
transformers), that designed a transformer beautifully at
the hairy edge of Class 2 (dry location) limits, using a
core size more closely matched to 1 kVA and wire sizes
typically used for much larger current output transformers.
I told him it couldn't possibly pass muster, but in the end
had to eat crow.  All this by manipulating a core air gap;
the large core and wire sizes had the thing barely over
ambient under short-circuit conditions for eight hours (part
of my customers design intent).  Impressive bit of trickery
... er ... I mean engineering.

Wish I could remember his name.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
[email protected]

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   2005 IEEE Symposium on Product Safety Engineering
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