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From: Price, Ed [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Ethernet Decoupling


I have a twisted-pair Ethernet receive and a twisted-pair Ethernet transmit
set of 4 wires penetrating what would otherwise be a shielded box. Internal
box noise, as low as 35 MHz, is getting out along this path.
 
I put a 4700 pF feedthrough capacitor on each of the four lines. That worked
pretty well, so well that the Ethernet shut down. Does anyone have a guideline
about how much capacitance, L-L & L-G, that is typically OK?
 

 
I want to thank everyone for the many instructive comments and tips about
Ethernet problems! It's obvious that Ethernet interfaces must give commercial
compliance engineers a lot of grief.
 
In my case, I had the advantage of machined aluminum equipment cases, shielded
interface cables that looked like small fire hoses, and MIL-grade multi-pin
circular connectors that cost as much as your mortgage payment. So, what went
wrong? It all came down to a bad wiring practice by a sub-module vendor; they
routed the 4 Ethernet wires, and the cable shield, through the pins of several
connectors. Even worse, they didn't ground the shields at each connector. As a
result, Ethernet data was coupling onto all the other wires in those
connectors, as well as getting onto the outside of the Ethernet cable shield. 
 
A few changes got us a 35 dB reduction of the 100 MHz noise.
 
Ed Price
[email protected]                   WB6WSN
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Applications
San Diego, CA USA
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