Your understanding is not correct. A USB device plugged into any other
device that is directly connected to the AC mains will need an oine
conducted testing.  Several examples are:
A USB dongle that gets its power from the USB port and is plugged into a
laptop where the laptop gets its power from the AC mains will require
conducted emissions. The reason is simple, since the dongle gets its power
>from a source that does connect to the AC mains you do not know how the
dongle affects the AC mains.  It is an assumption that proper filtering of
the laptop power supply is sufficient to provide filtered power to the USB
ports.  It is also an assumption that even with filtering a USB device will
not cause emissions problems for the laptop when it is plugged into the AC.
While the laptop itself may only need conducted emissions originally for one
sample USB device, the intentional radiator is a separate certified product
and it falls under its own rules which will require conducted emissions.
The FCC wants to know if the device by itself when plugged into the host
device causes the host device conducted emissions problems.

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[email protected]
Sent: 04/10/2006 2:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fw: FCC equipment authorization: Have RFID devices operating @
13.56 MHz been exempted from conducted emission testing?

Dear Bob,
      Thanks for the reply. So if a device is not drawing power from the
a.c. mains it is exempted from line conducted emissions test.
      Similarly USB devices (such as USB mouse, USB keyboard, USB smart
card reader etc.) which are drawing power from the USB port of the PC also
are exempted from the line conducted emissions testing.
      Is my understanding correct?

Sincerely

K.Balasubramanian
Project Leader - Hardware.


                                                                           
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They must be talking about the reader. It would not be subjected to line
conducted tests because it is running off a 12 volt DC supply (just like
any other PC board, etc.). The physical access control panel would be
subjected to line conducted emission tests. Whether a device is battery
backed up or not has no significance on whether it is subjected to line
conducted tests.

Bob Heller
3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01
St. Paul, MN 55107-1208
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Dear Experts,
      Recently I have down loaded a test report of an intentional radiator
type RFID device from the FCC website. In the report it is mentioned that
line conducted emission test is not applicable due to product type. This is
a physical access control reader device operating at 13.56 MHz drawing 12
volts D.C. power from a  physical access control panel. The control panel
is drawing power from the mains and have a battery back up too.
      Are devices with battery back up exempted from line conducted
emission?

Sincerely

K.Balasubramanian
Project Leader - Hardware.

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