Doug, All,
It would be nice if they released something official on this, specifically
on the OET website, as using the DoC logo was never intended to be used for a
Class A device, only Class B Computers and Peripherals.
Larry
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From: Doug Kramer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC
To add to that, you can use the FCC logo on products for which the
manufacturer creates a DoC and fully follows the DoC requirements. Testing
performed by an accredited lab and fully documented in an endorsed report by
that lab, information in manual and provided to user (15.19 and 15.21) and the
creation of the DoC document meeting the Part 2 requirements.
When I get home I can dig up the response from the FCC on that question I
posed to them not 4 months ago, as we had a customer who wanted to use the
logo on a Class A device.
-Doug Kramer
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:51 AM
To: Andrew Robbins; Charlie Blackham; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC
That's correct. I have seen the FCC mark used on many products in-correctly
(including even on some class A products). But the mark and the declaration
of conformity are specifically meant for class computers and computer
peripherals. Also...the declaration of conformity procedures do require a
test report from an accredited test lab.
Jim Hulbert
Pitney Bowes
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Charlie Blackham; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC
As I recall the DoC procedure and that new FCC mark was specifically aimed at
computers and computer peripherals which previously had to be Certified by the
FCC (prior to 97). It was a result of complaints from HP and Intel about the
length of time it took the FCC to review submittals for Certification. It
does not apply to any Class A devices which were already eligible for
Verification (similar to DoC in practice) and was not meant to apply to other
digital devices sold for use in the home (Class B) that are not "computers and
computer peripherals". ET Docket No. 95-19
BR- Andrew
From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC DoC
Gary
I've used the following format, not dissimilar to EU DoC, which seems to cover
requirements in 47CFR2 subpart J :
We
[Company Name] (of Manufacturer or Importer, which must be located within USA)
[Company Address] (which must be located within USA)
declare under our sole responsibility that the products:
[Product name and number]
to which this declaration relates are in conformity with the following
regulations
47 CFR 15
[Signature]
[name]
[title]
[date]
Don't know if it's "right", but never had any complaints J
Regards
Charlie
From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 20 September 2010 21:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PSES] FCC DoC
I think I've gotten a little sloppy in my documentation. The FCC back in about
1982 had a Declaration of Conformity very similar to the EU's CE Declaration
of Conformity, but I haven't seen it used or used it in some time. Rather the
product carried the required part 15 markings, and their was a heading in the
manual that said FCC DoC that simply stated it was tested and passed Class A
or B. The user warnings about moving things around or modifying the thing were
in that section as well. Over time I had completely forgotten about the FCC
DoC.
Are these still being generated and can anyone give me an example of this, as
I remember its an internally generated document one you got the official test
complete at an approved lab.
We generate all of the CE Documents, when appropriate, but this is the first
time I've had a customer request one. We did send the test report but they are
insistant that we give them a FCC DoC. Happy to obligue but would like to find
the reference CFR 47 part 2(?) and an example if someone can share.
Thanks
Gary McInturff
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