And to add to that, the accredited lab must be in a country that has a Phase 1 MRA with the US, even if accredited by A2LA / NVLAP or other recognized ABs for this type of accreditation. Best regards, Mac Elliott
[ ] General Public ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Kramer Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC To add to that, you can use the FCC logo on products for which the manufacturer creates a DoC and fully follows the DoC requirements. Testing performed by an accredited lab and fully documented in an endorsed report by that lab, information in manual and provided to user (15.19 and 15.21) and the creation of the DoC document meeting the Part 2 requirements. When I get home I can dig up the response from the FCC on that question I posed to them not 4 months ago, as we had a customer who wanted to use the logo on a Class A device. -Doug Kramer From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:51 AM To: Andrew Robbins; Charlie Blackham; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC That's correct. I have seen the FCC mark used on many products in-correctly (including even on some class A products). But the mark and the declaration of conformity are specifically meant for class computers and computer peripherals. Also…the declaration of conformity procedures do require a test report from an accredited test lab. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Robbins Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:25 PM To: Charlie Blackham; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] FCC DoC As I recall the DoC procedure and that new FCC mark was specifically aimed at computers and computer peripherals which previously had to be Certified by the FCC (prior to 97). It was a result of complaints from HP and Intel about the length of time it took the FCC to review submittals for Certification. It does not apply to any Class A devices which were already eligible for Verification (similar to DoC in practice) and was not meant to apply to other digital devices sold for use in the home (Class B) that are not “computers and computer peripherals”. ET Docket No. 95-19 BR- Andrew From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC DoC Gary I’ve used the following format, not dissimilar to EU DoC, which seems to cover requirements in 47CFR2 subpart J : We [Company Name] (of Manufacturer or Importer, which must be located within USA) [Company Address] (which must be located within USA) declare under our sole responsibility that the products: [Product name and number] to which this declaration relates are in conformity with the following regulations 47 CFR 15 [Signature] [name] [title] [date] Don’t know if it’s “right”, but never had any complaints J Regards Charlie From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 20 September 2010 21:20 To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] FCC DoC I think I’ve gotten a little sloppy in my documentation. The FCC back in about 1982 had a Declaration of Conformity very similar to the EU’s CE Declaration of Conformity, but I haven’t seen it used or used it in some time. Rather the product carried the required part 15 markings, and their was a heading in the manual that said FCC DoC that simply stated it was tested and passed Class A or B. The user warnings about moving things around or modifying the thing were in that section as well. Over time I had completely forgotten about the FCC DoC. Are these still being generated and can anyone give me an example of this, as I remember its an internally generated document one you got the official test complete at an approved lab. We generate all of the CE Documents, when appropriate, but this is the first time I’ve had a customer request one. We did send the test report but they are insistant that we give them a FCC DoC. Happy to obligue but would like to find the reference CFR 47 part 2(?) and an example if someone can share. 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