Bonjour Benoit:
 
The devil is in the details.
 
If the Card Cage is LISTED and it has a particular model number and now you
add data cards to it and 
you sell the Card Cage under a different model numbers ( that will vary
depending upon your various configurations )  the Card Cage then becomes no
longer LISTED.
 
You have to advise UL and have them include all of the new model numbers in
the LISTING and provide info
as to what that changes are.*and that will cost you about 800 US DOLLARS.
 
ALL OF THE ABOVE PRESUPPOSES THAT YOU ARE THE APPLICANT ( THE OWNER OF THE
FILE ) .
 

Best Regards

Reg Henry

Reginald Henry


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Subject: RE: Safety regulations


    
 
Bonjour Benoit:
 
 
If a PCB manufacturer buys a card cage that includes a fully listed power
supply (approved by UL or CSA or ETL or any NRTL), and stuff this cage with
his own PCBs (not listed) with no harmful external voltages or access to, and
resell this as a whole new product. Can he put that on the market without
having to re-list the new product as long as the markings on the power supply
are still visible from outside the box? 
 
If the card cage is LISTED, then probably okay.
If a product is LISTED, then it meets safety 
requirements for its intended purpose, namely
a card cage with cards provided by another
entity.
 
Be careful that the card cage is LISTED rather
than RECOGNIZED.  If RECOGNIZED, then it is 
intended as a part of some host equipment, and 
the host equipment will need to be independently 
certified (LISTED).
 
If the card cage is LISTED, and you put another
name on it to make it look like a different 
product, or make it look like another manufacturer,
then you will need to get a "COMPLEMENTARY
LISTING."  This is where t he certification house
lists both you and the card cage as manufacturers,
and that the card cage manufacturer is the actual
manufacturer.  
 
I hope this answers your question.
 
 
Best regards,
Rich
 
 
 
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