Bonjour Benoit: The devil is in the details. If the Card Cage is LISTED and it has a particular model number and now you add data cards to it and you sell the Card Cage under a different model numbers ( that will vary depending upon your various configurations ) the Card Cage then becomes no longer LISTED. You have to advise UL and have them include all of the new model numbers in the LISTING and provide info as to what that changes are.*and that will cost you about 800 US DOLLARS. ALL OF THE ABOVE PRESUPPOSES THAT YOU ARE THE APPLICANT ( THE OWNER OF THE FILE ) .
Best Regards Reg Henry Reginald Henry Electrical Engineer Please think before printing this e-mail Tel: (631) 952-2288 Ext: 310 Tel: (800) 645-9116 Ext: 310 Web: <http://www.vicon-cctv.com/ <blocked::http://www.vicon-cctv.com/> >< /U> ________________________________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of rn...@san.rr.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:21 PM To: 'Benoit Nadeau' Cc: 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: RE: Safety regulations Bonjour Benoit: If a PCB manufacturer buys a card cage that includes a fully listed power supply (approved by UL or CSA or ETL or any NRTL), and stuff this cage with his own PCBs (not listed) with no harmful external voltages or access to, and resell this as a whole new product. Can he put that on the market without having to re-list the new product as long as the markings on the power supply are still visible from outside the box? If the card cage is LISTED, then probably okay. If a product is LISTED, then it meets safety requirements for its intended purpose, namely a card cage with cards provided by another entity. Be careful that the card cage is LISTED rather than RECOGNIZED. If RECOGNIZED, then it is intended as a part of some host equipment, and the host equipment will need to be independently certified (LISTED). If the card cage is LISTED, and you put another name on it to make it look like a different product, or make it look like another manufacturer, then you will need to get a "COMPLEMENTARY LISTING." This is where t he certification house lists both you and the card cage as manufacturers, and that the card cage manufacturer is the actual manufacturer. I hope this answers your question. Best regards, Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/em c-pstc ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereof) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in it's entireity, whether in electronic or hard copy format.The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by the company. Thank you.